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Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: JohnRR] #697821 05/18/10 01:55 PM 05/18/10 01:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,906 Lower AZ AZ-Nick Here Since 1996!
AZ-Nick Here Since 1996! Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,906 Lower AZ	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: The other consideration that has not been mentioned is future value. I can't believe it took you this long to mention VALUE .... Scott , you do great work , I'm just ribbing you some ... reason I asked is I have a set of Hemi clone carbs that are 750's and I don't know if they are ebrocks or not , I hope NOT ... Are you thinking they are the original 1967 750 cfm "cheater carbs?" No Darryl , they are CLONE carbs . 71 GTX 4sp Dana GY9 HD Road King

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: AZ-Nick] #697822 05/18/10 03:20 PM 05/18/10 03:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,937 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,937 U.S.S.A.	Maybe we should start calling them TRIBUTE carbs ?

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: JohnRR] #697823 05/18/10 03:28 PM 05/18/10 03:28 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Maybe we should start calling them TRIBUTE carbs ? Do you really want to get into this? They are neither clone or tributes they are modified Edels. to fit the original air cleaners. i was asking if you had an original set of factory 67 "cheater" carbs as they were known that flowed 750 cfms in th smaller bodies back in the day. i assumed that you knew how to read the numbers on them to identify them but maybe not.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? #697824 05/18/10 03:38 PM 05/18/10 03:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,937 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,937 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Maybe we should start calling them TRIBUTE carbs ? Do you really want to get into this? They are neither clone or tributes they are modified Edels. to fit the original air cleaners. i was asking if you had an original set of factory 67 "cheater" carbs as they were known that flowed 750 cfms in th smaller bodies back in the day. i assumed that you knew how to read the numbers on them to identify them but maybe not. Look DONKEY , they are CLONE carbs , they have NO NUMBERS on them , I know the source of them , and I know they are NOT the 67 cheater carbs ... more than likely they are Ebrocks and I hope they work ok, if they don't I'll have to find another old carter AFB 750 like the one I have and have them made into clone , er tribute carbs and off these . Last edited by JohnRR; 05/19/10 09:47 AM.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697825 02/24/14 06:20 PM 02/24/14 06:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder
PAINT IT BLACK Got a CHIP on my shoulder Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,647 Houston Texas	Sorry for addressing this ancient post.. just getting back into things here after a break. Scott, I appreciate your approach and not stooping to diss fiberglass or my company. We have a mutual respect. That's why I do what I do.. there's all sorts of motivation factors in what one guy does vs. another. Here's the base I offer for the record. Actually, the rear hole on this one is too far back because this one fits a Staage V setup, but this is essentially what you can expect, but that it will fit a couple of Eddy carbs. Once painted.... hardly noticeable that its not steel. 3X as thick as you'd expect, so you can smooth the underside if you wish. No warpage or any other pit falls. Plenty of people here can attest to that. 8051513-DSC_0001.JPG (163 downloads)

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697826 02/24/14 06:31 PM 02/24/14 06:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,905 Minnesota 3twos master
3twos master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,905 Minnesota	Are you having issues with your stock carburetors? Why not have them fixed or repaired? Al & Sheila

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697827 02/24/14 06:37 PM 02/24/14 06:37 PM
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71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,445 Morristown Tn.	Let me tell you from first hand experience, had I known about what Scott had to offer, I would have gone that route. But the engine guy put 650 Thunders on my motor, and I wasn't going to throw them away, but every single thing between the intake and the air filter was a can of worms. It always costs to deviate from stock.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: triple_green] #697828 09/05/14 10:33 PM 09/05/14 10:33 PM
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StevieD1966 member Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 9 Virginia Beach VA	I am building a 70 date coded street Hemi with the street Hemi stock intake manifold. I want to buy some Edelbrock 600 cfm carbs for it. Which ones should I buy? Should I order one carb with the electric choke? The car is a manual trans also.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: StevieD1966] #697829 09/05/14 11:03 PM 09/05/14 11:03 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Haven't you been reading the thread? Sounds like you are going to make the big mistake Scott was talking about above. Personally, I'd like to see a setup with four Weber IDA carbs with short stacks ending up inside the 2-4s air cleaner. Talk about an interesting build for the cleaner base, but it'd be way cool. Just another way of looking at it. R.

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: dogdays] #697830 09/06/14 01:27 AM 09/06/14 01:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here's a pic of what I'm talking about. These are based on Edelbrock carbs (the bases only) and the tops are old original carters that fit ALL years 426 Street Hemi air cleaners. These carbs use all of original parts (linkage, fuel lines, etc.) with zero modifications. Choke shown is electronic, I can add any style choke desired, and please ignore the incorrect fuel fittings, they were just on there for the test run. *JohnRR, I can also build these clones from older Carter Competition Series carb bases (as opposed to Edelbrocks, which by the way I have had zero complaints about) but you would need to find and supply the bases, I don't have a ready supply of them. 8262431-HemiClonesWithElectricChokeandoptionalTagsAdded.jpg (361 downloads)

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697831 09/06/14 01:28 AM 09/06/14 01:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Here's a set of them on member "Troy's" 1969 Daytona (he wasn't quite done attaching everything in this pic). 8262432-HemiCloneDaytona.jpg (295 downloads)

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697832 09/06/14 02:14 AM 09/06/14 02:14 AM
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StevieD1966 member Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 9 Virginia Beach VA	Hey Scott what is the cost for a set of your carbs?

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #697833 09/06/14 02:16 AM 09/06/14 02:16 AM
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469runner pro stock 4 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,249 North Carolina	When these HEMI's were built, the front and rear carburetors were different. The rear carburetor was the one primarily used for light throttle/cruise conditions. Hence the progressive linkage that brings in the front carburetor for wide open throttle. With Mr. Harms work above does the linkage operate the carburetors 1-1 as essentially these are the same carbs. being an Edelbrock 600, 750, etc.. Or, have the idle and cruise circuits been modified on the rear carb. to allow the use of the progressive linkage as original?

Re: Replacement for stock carbs on 426 street hemi ? [Re: 469runner] #697834 09/06/14 02:29 AM 09/06/14 02:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	$600.00 each. Yes, as mentioned these use the exact same progressive linkage, fuel lines, etc. as factory carbs. These are not off the shelf Edelbrocks, about the only things that are "stock" Edelbrock are the bare base castings and some of the small common parts. I've sold A LOT of these over the years with quite few of them being from return customers, they make a very nice economical setup for any street driven Hemi and even for some Race Hemi's, especially considering that original Hemi carbs in restored condition commonly trade hands for $2,500-$6,000.00.

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