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Re: 70 E body tremec 5 speed...what they don't tell you
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07/22/08 07:31 PM
07/22/08 07:31 PM
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ontario calif
ns1aar
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I have an AAR also and had the same issues as Tom.
NS1AAR
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Re: 70 E body tremec 5 speed...what they don't tell you
[Re: ns1aar]
#69525
07/22/08 08:25 PM
07/22/08 08:25 PM
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MD
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I have an AAR also and had the same issues as Tom.
Could it be the shorter wheel base compared to a Challenger? Must be something different with the small block Cuda. Would be intersting to find out why you and Tom had the same issues with poor fitment.
I would like to see Tom's pics.
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Re: 70 E body tremec 5 speed...what they don't tell you
[Re: RTSE4ME]
#69526
07/22/08 10:20 PM
07/22/08 10:20 PM
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ontario calif
ns1aar
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I supplied Keisler with some measurments offered my car for test fits,they have a local dealer here,and have tried on several times to get answers from them.The last PM I sent went unanswered.Just for the knowledge I would like to know why the differances.The AAR shell is suppose to be the same as other cudas did Chry do something strange with them?
NS1AAR
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Re: 70 E body tremec 5 speed...what they don't tell you
[Re: ns1aar]
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07/22/08 10:52 PM
07/22/08 10:52 PM
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Asheboro NC
mopowertim
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We had one at the shop a few years back that a customer had bought, and installed himself- this guy is an engineer at TIMCO aeroautics in Greensboro- a smart guy, heck of a fabricator, and a pretty good mechanic..( we were doing a front end rebuild, and disc brake swap that he didn't have the time to do, because he had spent so much time with the Keisler issue. The thing was barely drivable, vibrated like a cement mixer, and shifted like a dump truck. He had tried to get tech help from Keisler, had asked for a refund, etc, and got NOWHERE.. he was pretty livid. I drove the car, and felt what I described.. we didn't have anything to do with the Keisler situation, but I heard plenty about it. He ended up going auto with a gear vendors, which we did install, and NO PROBLEMS at all- works like gravy. I remember him being ready to choke Sharif Keisler or whatever his name is, because of the holier than thou attitude he was getting from him, telling hil he didn't know what he was doing, etc. I do know that there was no way to get the pinion angle right with that thing, aside from destroying the trans tunnel completely, it was nowhere near a drop in application.. this was on a 70 Road Runner, factory 4 spd car. The trans ended up in a 69 Coronet around here, he never got it to fit right either, and then 2/3 gear went out of it.. it ended up in a junk pile somewhere...
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Re: 70 E body tremec 5 speed...what they don't tell you
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07/23/08 08:32 AM
07/23/08 08:32 AM
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Tennessee
rj8806
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WOW that did,nt take long they just got done smoothing things over.if you have to shift at 10,000 rpm stick with a auto 
No kidding..  
As stated there will always be exceptions to the rule. For the AAR guys, we still have not determined why the fittment issues are more prevalent on them as compared to non AAR cars, it just doesn't make any sense.
As for the post up above this one about the issues with the '70 RR, that is just baffling. The owner has a '70 RR that we used to develop the 5 speed kit off of and it fits as advertised. It now has our automatic overdrive in it but I know for a fact that the 5 speed fits as promised. On the b-body cars, we do have to move the shifter over to the center of the tunnel as there is no way to clear the torsion bar crossmember and put the shifter in the factory 4 speed location. If the car is a factory 4 speed, relocating the shifter over to the centerline is the only modification needed to fit the TKO in there.
The main point of Shafi coming on here and posting in this thread was to point out that we did have issues in the past but we all have worked very hard to rectify them. They are considered just that, issues of the past.
We continue to grow every day and learn from the mistakes of the past. As someone on here already stated, they could see an improvement in the customer service and attitudes of Keisler Engineering as compared to the past and that's what we strive for everyday. To continue to grow and get better and serve the customer is our number one goal. 
Richard
Tech Support
Keisler Engineering
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Re: 70 E body tremec 5 speed...what they don't tell you
[Re: ns1aar]
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07/23/08 09:49 AM
07/23/08 09:49 AM
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I supplied Keisler with some measurments offered my car for test fits,they have a local dealer here,and have tried on several times to get answers from them.The last PM I sent went unanswered.Just for the knowledge I would like to know why the differances.The AAR shell is suppose to be the same as other cudas did Chry do something strange with them?
I remember reading a post here that someone mentioned that some Cuda's had Challenger floors in them. It was post about subframe connectors or TTI headers.
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