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Re: I need a wake up call lol [Re: topside] #681214
04/27/10 12:54 PM
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Actually, they are crushing cars, there was a news article from an LA newspaper where they were crushing your car while you watched. Probably the exception and not the rule, but that's pretty harsh!

Re: I need a wake up call lol [Re: rabid scott] #681215
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Oh, as far as hopping up your car, just do it if you want to!

As some people get older their priorities change and many seem to loose the interest in what made these cars desirable: the raw power that puts you into the seat and pitches your machine sideways as you grab for second gear. That's why the muscle car even exists. They weren't always "investments".

Do what you want, you only get one shot at being young and dumb. Time doesn't wait for anyone!

When I was your age (I'm 30) I had already broken a lot parts, crashed a few cars, and had a lot of fun going really fast!!

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: CurYellowBird] #681216
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What nobody who is actually from "back in the day" has mentioned:

How much money do you want to pizz away down an endless hole and will never, ever, see back?

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: Commando1] #681217
04/27/10 02:50 PM
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messed up the post somehow

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Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: Commando1] #681218
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I'm not paying attention to how much money I'll be spending. I'll keep the receipts and what not, but don't ask me how much I've already pissed away on my malibu lol.

With the 383, after messing with comp cams camquest, I get the best power out of the PP280 .474/.474 camshaft. It gives me roughly 460hp/450lb. with decent heads.

I'm not the young and dumb type. I like building cars right the first time and not half a**ing a build.

As for making the owner watch as they crush your car, supposedly that is what they are doing down here. Luckily I know all the san antonio cops and all of them are hot rodders


Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original
Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: CurYellowBird] #681219
04/27/10 03:04 PM
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Here are a few pics of the project in question. Some of the other small options are a dictaphone cassette recorder mounted on the 4 speed console (1 of 136 supposedly), 3.23 sure grip, manual drum brakes, power steering, bucket seats. The one thing I always question is why the original owner put a clock in the rally gauges when it has a 4 speed. I'm gonna switch it out though for a tach anyway.

I'm gonna end up getting a set of the 18 inch magnum wheels as this car came with the 14's, but the last owner didn't have them.




Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original
Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: CurYellowBird] #681220
04/27/10 04:10 PM
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Advice- but not the kind you asked for. DITCH THE MALIBU!!!!

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: Kirby] #681221
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I 2nd that. Sell Malibu and put all money in the yellow bird.

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: CurYellowBird] #681222
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Quote:

...don't ask me how much I've already pissed away on my malibu lol.



Well, you've asked the wrong people if you should throw your money at a Mopar or some other brand...

It's way more fun in MoparLand.

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: Commando1] #681223
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There isn't anymore money really going into the malibu since it is pretty much a done project. The only thing going on with it is a gasket rebuild on the engine since I've been driving it for five years. My old man is still giving me sh** about it cause he said "Most kids don't keep their first cars". Kinda funny my first car is a 80 malibu, second is a 71' Roadrunner, and third is my 96' Dakota.

There really is no point to selling it cause it is personalized to my taste and I probably wouldn't even get half of my money back out of it if I sold it. Its like back in the 80's when Dodge Darts and Plymouth Scamps weren't selling for a hundred bucks. Nowadays, people look at my old man and say "I can't believe you cut into a power bulge GTS hood". His response "So what? Nobody gave a damn when I did it anyway."


Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original
Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: CurYellowBird] #681224
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I wouldn't get rid of your first car. I still have mine. 79 Camaro that I bought in 1986. Not many people can say they still have their 1st. Car.

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: rapom] #681225
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Or thier first wife, or thier first dog etc..

My first car was a 73 duster. 340 car. I loved it, but I don't miss it one darn bit.

Life is about change

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: dave571] #681226
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My first car was a 68 barracuda I bought in 1983 for $600 of hard earned paper route money. I still have it. It now runs high 12s and hauls my 3 girls to the icecream stand. Im glad I didnt change!

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Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: RonaldV] #681227
04/27/10 10:23 PM
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Not my first car but my second one is still with me. 78 Trans Am bought in 82'. As per the OP, I would think seriously about modding the car too much. I modded my 69 Bee because there was no data plate or build sheet. Your car is a pretty rare car but it is yours to do as you please.


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Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: dave571] #681228
04/27/10 10:24 PM
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Quote:

Life is about change




I don't know about that... Life is about doing what you enjoy, be it change or more of the same. I still have my second car, '74 'Cuda which I bought in 1988 when my first car, a '70 Swinger, got smashed. I'd probably still have IT if it hadn't been t-boned at high speed by a Benz 560.

As far as performance, I think it's possible to have "enough" performance without compromising drivability and reliability. I base that exclusively on the fact that, as drivability goes down, so does the street fun factor, so you've gotta find the happy medium for you.

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: intragration] #681229
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I pretty much screwed myself when I first got the car cause I knew exactly where the 440 was and paid 225$ for the complete long block out of a 78' winnebago. It wasn't until a few months later did I realize how rare and complete the car is. So now I have the option of doing a complete restoration with leaving the car she came, OR doing a 550hp/550lb. 440 build. I have all the parts to do either one.

But I think I'm going to just do a cam and head swap on the original 383, get the compression up, and go with the MP .474/.474 cam as comp cams suggested that cam would give me a 460hp/450lb combo. That will pretty much leave the car stock in a sense and I'll leave all my customizing thoughts towards the malibu.


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Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: CurYellowBird] #681230
04/27/10 10:57 PM
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If you really want some fun build the 440 and stuff it in a A-body at a later date. That wil be plenty enough to pucker you up. Save the runner as it is with some hipo upgrades and leave it a street driver.

Re: Young gun needing last generation advice [Re: stumpy] #681231
04/28/10 12:49 AM
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Restore the car to stock, but build the drivetrain the way you want it. You can always stuff the original motor under your work bench in case some day you want it back.

You can build for power and still have something that's very driveable. I know with 10.5:1 compression 440, 440source stealth or edelbrock rpm heads, rpm intake and headers with a comp xe275hl cam you can make 500hp/550torq, proven several times by mopar mags and some members here. I've got a lunati voodoo cam in my 7.8:1 smogger 440 with 440source heads. That cam has slightly less duration to it than the comp 275, amd I mean slightly less at 4* less duration @050 on the intake and exhaust. And I'm running a whole lot less compression and on the street it drives about the same as it did when I had the stock lo-po 440 cam and stock heads in there. So with a bunch more compression and 4* more cam duration, throttle response on the street should be crisp if your carb and ignition advance are dialed in right.

With a modern cam design and decent flowing heads you can build a lot of power and still have something that runs great on the street. It's not like the old days where you're loafing around town with an outdated mopar 509 hydraulic cam.

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