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LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? #68077 06/05/08 03:52 PM 06/05/08 03:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,150 lewiston, ID C cornucopia OP
cornucopia OP C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,150 lewiston, ID	I'm putting together my 440 and have the valve train assembled and when turning the motor over by hand I noticed that some of the lifters turn when the cam lobe comes around and some dont. should they?? I know they need to spin when the engine running so I am a little concerned...maybe they will spin when it's running??am I worring about nothin?? by the way, it's a new cam and lifters. thanks.

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: cornucopia] #68078 06/05/08 04:01 PM 06/05/08 04:01 PM
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R70RUNNER master Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,861 Riverside, Ca	They could be skidding on the moly, but why risk it? I have always marked the lifters with a Sharpie, and turn the crank 10 full rotations. If I don't see atleast a 1/4 rotation I'll switch a few around till I see the rotation. Then re-moly the face of the lifter once I'm satisfied. HTH's Current cars: 2000 Dak Quad Cab, 2012 Challenger,1970 Road Runner, 1994 Firehawk 1966 Coronet post sedan, 1988 Corvette, 2005 Magnum RT all SOLD R70RUNNER<---VP Inland Empire Chapter of the MPM

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: cornucopia] #68079 06/05/08 04:56 PM 06/05/08 04:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 335 indiana marks69 enthusiast
marks69 enthusiast Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 335 indiana	You want them to turn. The lifter face is not exactly flat just for that reason. This allows for cam break-in without the cam and lifters self destructing.

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: R70RUNNER] #68080 06/05/08 05:08 PM 06/05/08 05:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,261 ILL mark7171 pro stock
mark7171 pro stock Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,261 ILL	i didnt see rotation in all, till my 323" was at operation temp with full oil psi. some turned with the spinning of the crank.

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: mark7171] #68081 06/05/08 05:15 PM 06/05/08 05:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 335 indiana marks69 enthusiast
marks69 enthusiast Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 335 indiana	I wouldn't worry about it just turning the motor over by hand. I do hear a lot about running a diesel grade of oil for cam break in though. Like shell rotella. Supposedly the oil has a lot of zinc in it. I guess it lubricates and also aids in providing friction for break in(lifters turning etc.) I'm pretty sure you can get info from comp cams website.

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: marks69] #68082 06/05/08 05:25 PM 06/05/08 05:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: You want them to turn. The lifter face is not exactly flat just for that reason. This allows for cam break-in without the cam and lifters self destructing. The flat tappet cam face is not flat either for the same reason. Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks. But: Don't fix it, if it Works!

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: R70RUNNER] #68083 06/05/08 05:45 PM 06/05/08 05:45 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,942 U.S.S.A.	Quote: They could be skidding on the moly, but why risk it? I have always marked the lifters with a Sharpie, and turn the crank 10 full rotations. If I don't see atleast a 1/4 rotation I'll switch a few around till I see the rotation. Then re-moly the face of the lifter once I'm satisfied. HTH's you should see them all rotate , if not move them around . what cam are you using ?

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: JohnRR] #68084 06/05/08 06:29 PM 06/05/08 06:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,150 lewiston, ID C cornucopia OP
cornucopia OP C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,150 lewiston, ID	Quote: Quote: They could be skidding on the moly, but why risk it? I have always marked the lifters with a Sharpie, and turn the crank 10 full rotations. If I don't see atleast a 1/4 rotation I'll switch a few around till I see the rotation. Then re-moly the face of the lifter once I'm satisfied. HTH's you should see them all rotate , if not move them around . what cam are you using ? the cam is an old crane "Blazer 288" vintage 1981. I got it new in the box from a friend of mine for free. the lifters are new 'perfect circle' units...I gooped everything up with GM EOS lube and then dumped a bottle of the red, Comp cam lube on everything for good measure. I'll pull the rockers and pushrods and swap holes with the lifters and check for any tight ones and try again. thanks for the help, guys!

Re: LIFTERS....should I see them turn?? [Re: cornucopia] #68085 06/05/08 06:53 PM 06/05/08 06:53 PM
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MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	light oil is all that should be on the sides of the lifter and the bores that they ride in. Not the sticky lifter to cam lube. Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks. But: Don't fix it, if it Works!

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