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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: stumpy] #668266
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yea I read that, but if cranks without the wire plugged, is still starter relay related... if doesn't crank with wire unplugged at relay, then is still the wire... no other posibility that I'm aware at least

( both test with NSS unplugged )


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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: NachoRT74] #668267
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It won't be a wire problem when he ran it directly from the switch to the relay. It is not possible with a new wire.

Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: stumpy] #668268
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It will crank with the wire plugging in or not and in any gear. I'm thinking that somehow i'm bypassing the NSS...any ideas about that? I have a 6 switch Painless Wiring box. The "I" wire from the starter relay goes to the starter button in the Painless box and the other wire from the NSS goes to the "G" on the starter relay. Thats about it...


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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: Badfish67] #668269
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With the wire disconnected from the g terminal the engine should not turn over. You are having a relay problem if it does turn over. As asked before are you sure you don't have a relay for a stick car?

Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: stumpy] #668270
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This whole scenerio defies all logic regarding a NSS and/or the relay!!
The ONLY engineered way the starter can get juice is if the relay grounds .
The only other way is if the middle wire on the relay (the one that goes to the starter solenoid small terminal)gets 12 volts.
If there's no wire on the ground (G) side of the relay, then that tells me the relay is continuosly grounded. Yet a new relay doesn't fix the problem!!
Something is REALLY strange.

Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: Badfish67] #668271
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Post a picture of the relays terminals you are using. Its not rocket science here, its an easy one minute to diagnose and fix problem

Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: NITROUSN] #668272
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I just figured it out...for some reason years ago, I ran a wire from my starter button to the same terminal on the starter relay that holds the wire for the starter (which should have just went to the "I" terminal). I took off that wire and now it will only start in park or neutral. Thanks for all the help!!! Now I wont have to lie at tech inspection that I have a NSS


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Re: Neutral safety switch issues - starts in gear [Re: Alikazam] #2482372
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go to Oriley and buy a 30 amp 4 pole relay. about 8 bucks on the shelf. Should have numbers 30,85, 86, and 87. 30 is a fused constant power supply. 87 is power out 12 volts. 87 goes to the solenoid. when activated 30 and 87 are like a single wire. 85 is ground that goes to NSS pin. 86 is what I call the trigger switch wire it comes from a temporary 12v power switch. the 86 is the lead wire for the coil in the relay, and the 85 is the ground. the NSS supplies the ground when in park or neutral. 85 and 86 makes the coil charge and closes the points and joins 30 and 87 together to put out 12 volts and start the car. you would probably run 86 from the ignition switch start. if you have a ford like a solenoid hook it to the s side small post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46nlei-2e4k

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