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Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: UCUDANT] #65421 06/02/08 04:22 PM 06/02/08 04:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,167 ERIE PA home of the RENCH MOB mike_vango OP super stock
mike_vango OP super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,167 ERIE PA home of the RENCH MOB	sorry i am trying to pass on as much info as i can. i don't know anything really about computer controlled fuel injection. i am assuming he is competent and checked all the really basic things. it DID NOT have fuel, spark or power at the injectors. the computer they ordered won't be here till tomorrow. THANKS Last edited by mike_vango; 06/02/08 04:28 PM.

Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: mike_vango] #65422 06/02/08 10:46 PM 06/02/08 10:46 PM
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UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,128 New Mexico	Cool good luck and let us know how it goes.

Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: UCUDANT] #65423 06/05/08 10:20 PM 06/05/08 10:20 PM
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UCUDANT Troll Hunter Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,128 New Mexico	So what happened? Be carefull some shops might be tempted to put one over on you if they were wrong on a computer purchase. They could then say find a sensor as the cause and swap it... eat the cost on a $50 part (mark up on the computer will cover that anyway) and charge you for the diagnostics check and computer.... Ask for the old computer. Retry it and verify it causes the trouble

Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: UCUDANT] #65424 06/05/08 10:43 PM 06/05/08 10:43 PM
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randal8 member R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 52	High secondary resistence,(bad plug wires or plugs) will cause the secondary voltage to eat away at the primary insulation in the coil. Eventually the high voltage will make its way into the primary circuit and back to the pcm. This will anger the pcm gods and they will shut down the asd relay. The fix is to replace the coil, plugs & wires and maybe the pcm. If your mechanic has a scope, he should be able to see the high voltage spike leaking into the primary circuit.

Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: randal8] #65425 06/05/08 10:50 PM 06/05/08 10:50 PM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,407 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	Quote: High secondary resistence,(bad plug wires or plugs) will cause the secondary voltage to eat away at the primary insulation in the coil. Eventually the high voltage will make its way into the primary circuit and back to the pcm. This will anger the pcm gods and they will shut down the asd relay. The fix is to replace the coil, plugs & wires and maybe the pcm. If your mechanic has a scope, he should be able to see the high voltage spike leaking into the primary circuit. Now thats funny. You tell us how the PCM knows secondary voltage.

Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: NITROUSN] #65426 06/05/08 10:56 PM 06/05/08 10:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,167 ERIE PA home of the RENCH MOB mike_vango OP super stock
mike_vango OP super stock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,167 ERIE PA home of the RENCH MOB	just got it back today! he said i owe him $212 for the computer and to drive it till wednesday and see how it does, then stop by and pay him. so we will see. i only started it twice since i got it back. i just loaded all my tools back in it so i really hope it's fixed. should i replace the coil now?

Re: 02 van won't start and the mechanics don't know why [Re: mike_vango] #65427 06/06/08 02:57 AM 06/06/08 02:57 AM
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Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Quote: just talked to the mechanic. he thinks its the computer or the ignition switch. he sez there is no spark or fuel and no power to the injectors. That era Dak/Ram/Van had an issue with a soldered connection in one of the power feeds under the fuseblock. The tip-off is no power to the injectors; a bad coil shouldn't affect that. Can cause an occasional no start issue. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

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