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{{{{{{{ IMPACT RACING - THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN }}}}}}}}
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03/26/10 03:21 PM
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March, 2010
March 26, 2010 - NOTICE OF DECERTIFICATION; NOTICE TO CEASE AND DESIST AND TERMINATION OF ALL CONTRACTS OF PARTICIPATION ISSUED TO IMPACT RACING
SFI Foundation, Inc., has issued a Notice of Decertification; Notice of Cease and Desist, and a notice terminating all Contracts of Participation to Impact Racing. Effective April 27, 2010, all products manufactured and/or distributed by Impact Racing pursuant to SFI Specification Programs 3.2A, 3.3, 16.1, and 16.5 are decertified. Evidence obtained by SFI shows that over a period of years Impact Racing has engaged in the production and use of counterfeit SFI conformance labels and patches, and affixed them to Impact products for use in motorsports. Under the Contracts of Participation between SFI and Impact, SFI conformance labels and patches may only be obtained from SFI and no other source. Evidence shows that Impact had counterfeit SFI labels and patches made in Asia and then affixed them to Impact products it distributed to members of the racing community. To SFI’s knowledge, Impact never advised its customers that its products contained phony SFI labels and patches. Impact never advised SFI of its systematic and longstanding practice of counterfeiting and distributing SFI patches and labeling.
Impact has been directed to cease and desist from this practice. SFI has directed Impact to immediately notify all affected customers to remove the counterfeit labeling and to offer the affected customers a full refund of the purchase price. SFI is requesting that all counterfeit conformance labels removed from Impact products be sent to SFI.
SFI has elected not to decertify these products immediately in order to minimize the potential hardships to members of the racing community that have been brought about by Impact’s counterfeiting activities.
SFI has also elected to terminate all Contracts of Participation with Impact Racing effective 90 days from March 24, 2010. Under the terms of the Contracts, either party may terminate the agreements without penalty upon 90 days notice. This means that Impact will no longer be able to participate in any SFI programs after this 90 day period.
SFI has taken these actions in the best interests of the safety and integrity of the racing community. This is in keeping with SFI’s mission and purpose.
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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03/26/10 03:31 PM
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i wonder what's really going on here? 
Well before there jacket didnt meet sfi code and I
guess they looked a little closer at them 
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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03/26/10 03:34 PM
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Isn't this the former owner of Simpson? 
I think so
All I can say is WOW and I feel for those affected.
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03/26/10 03:38 PM
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Isn't this the former owner of Simpson?
I think so
All I can say is WOW and I feel for those affected.
Yep... sure am glad I dont own any Impact gear...
those guys are going to be Pisssed off specially
if they just purchased it ... a jacket and pants
arent cheap if its a /5 or better
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03/26/10 03:48 PM
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Isn't this the former owner of Simpson?
I think so
All I can say is WOW and I feel for those affected.
Yep... sure am glad I dont own any Impact gear...
those guys are going to be Pisssed off specially
if they just purchased it ... a jacket and pants
arent cheap if its a /5 or better
To say I'm pissed off would be a huge understatement.....not only due to the cost of replacement (suit, shoes, gloves, neck collar, arm restraints) but more due to my but being strapped into the roadster in a suit that is evidently not safe....that's the kicker 
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03/26/10 03:54 PM
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Rick again i could be dead wrong here but it's not necessarily true that your gear is unsafe. it's plausible i would think to have a item certified by design, duplicate the item and put the counterfeit tag on it rather than paying sfi for their tags. i would bet that sfi probably charges a premium for the tags given the profit potential the items have.
to add another twist to it you could have a item certified THEN begin making/selling substandard products but paying sfi for the legit tags.
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03/26/10 04:09 PM
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I don't blame Rickster or anybody else for being PO'd, I would feel the same way! Jamesc does have some valid points and I'd rather have my SFI sticker made in china rather than my helment  But that is no excuse nor good business practice for racers who TRUST HIS BRAND with their LIFE! It WILL be interesting to see how this all plays out in the days and weeks ahead.
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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03/26/10 04:10 PM
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Rick again i could be dead wrong here but it's not necessarily true that your gear is unsafe. it's plausible i would think to have a item certified by design, duplicate the item and put the counterfeit tag on it rather than paying sfi for their tags. i would bet that sfi probably charges a premium for the tags given the profit potential the items have.
to add another twist to it you could have a item certified THEN begin making/selling substandard products but paying sfi for the legit tags.
I agree to a certain extent....you might feel safe strapping yourself in wearing a suspect product....but I sure wouldn't
and why should sfi be getting bashed period...nobody is reinventing the wheel here...it's been done this way for decades 
If simpson is putting bogus sfi tags on his product....then shame on him and him only
Rickster
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03/26/10 04:14 PM
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maybe i'm dead wrong here for my comments but bill simpson has probably done more to advance racing safety than any other single person out there. now his previously owned company that bears his name is owned by businessmen who are having their safety equipment made in china etc. i'd like to get a new simpson bandit but the shells are now made in china. afaik all impact equipment was made in USA, i could be wrong. with sfi's history i wouldn't be surprised if they charge a premium for their approval over and above what it actually costs for the testing (read business not non-profit). obviously i have no first hand knowledge of all the aspects of the situation and would be sorely disappointed if simpson was knowingly and/or deliberately selling compromised safety equipment but off the cuff i'd rather have my sfi sticker made in china than my helmet...but that's just my twisted logic.
not all simpson products are made in china. the helmet I just bought was made in Kentucky.
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03/26/10 04:21 PM
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i'm not defending simpson or bashing sfi but what makes the product suspect? do you really think the sfi tag is what makes a product safe? like i said IF the products are unsafe they should IMMEDIATELY suspend their use completely. so from a actual point of safety either one of two things is true. the products are safe OR they're unsafe and SFI is opening itself to some serious litigation of anyone gets injured. only one of these can be true. like i said think about it. either the stuff is good or it's not and we're willing to compromise the entire concept the SFI is founded on...which do you think is true? believe me i would be just as smoking mad if i had a bunch of impact gear and this came out.
 sfi wants there money plain and simple
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03/26/10 04:28 PM
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i'm not defending simpson or bashing sfi but what makes the product suspect? do you really think the sfi tag is what makes a product safe? like i said IF the products are unsafe they should IMMEDIATELY suspend their use completely. so from a actual point of safety either one of two things is true. the products are safe OR they're unsafe and SFI is opening itself to some serious litigation of anyone gets injured. only one of these can be true. like i said think about it. either the stuff is good or it's not and we're willing to compromise the entire concept the SFI is founded on...which do you think is true? believe me i would be just as smoking mad if i had a bunch of impact gear and this came out.
and like I said James....I agree with that, but who says it actually is or not...????? Do you know...????? OK, I don't either and it pisses me off....if you can't understand that, then I'm sorry.
Guess we will see what comes from all this, but I am highly doubtful it will help any of us that are stuck with this crap and that is all it will be worth, thanks to Bill Simpson not playing by the rules.
Rant Over
Rickster
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