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Let me get this straight..... Impact Racing and Simpson are TWO different companies.... correct..... all they are talking about is Impact 
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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Let me get this straight..... Impact Racing and Simpson
are TWO different companies.... correct..... all they
are talking about is Impact
Yes....he used to own Simpson, sold it and later started Impact.
Rickster
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Let me get this straight..... Impact Racing and Simpson
are TWO different companies.... correct..... all they
are talking about is Impact
Yes....he used to own Simpson, sold it and later started Impact.
Rickster
Ok... I got it now, when you guys are saying Simpson,
you are saying Simpson as the owner and not the company
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Let me get this straight..... Impact Racing and Simpson
are TWO different companies.... correct..... all they
are talking about is Impact
Yes....he used to own Simpson, sold it and later started Impact.
Rickster
Ok... I got it now, when you guys are saying Simpson,
you are saying Simpson as the owner and not the company
Rickster
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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simpson racing was started by bill simpson then sold after the dale earnhardt incident (and death threats to him and his family). he then started impact racing which is the company being discussed here. Rick i understand your anger towards impact believe me, i know what this stuff costs. i would think if impact wants to stay in business they will attempt to make good. either that or bill simpson is probably done for good. again my point is this. SFI the organization that is supposed to be a non-profit organization dedicated to overseeing the design and materials of racing safety equipment (and charges for this service) is NOT immediately suspending the usage of said product. sixpac i'd be equally suspect of a organization supposedly founded in/on safety that was willing to allow people to race with a KNOWN substandard product. either the product is safe and the non-profit organization didn't get their cut or imho SFI's credibility has just been reduced to zero...take your pick, you only get one http://www.sfifoundation.com/
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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simpson racing was started by bill simpson then sold after the dale earnhardt incident (and death threats to him and his family). he then started impact racing which is the company being discussed here.
Rick i understand your anger towards impact believe me, i know what this stuff costs. i would think if impact wants to stay in business they will attempt to make good. either that or bill simpson is probably done for good.
again my point is this. SFI the organization that is supposed to be a non-profit organization dedicated to overseeing the design and materials of racing safety equipment (and charges for this service) is NOT immediately suspending the usage of said product.
sixpac i'd be equally suspect of a organization supposedly founded in/on safety that was willing to allow people to race with a KNOWN substandard product.
either the product is safe and the non-profit organization didn't get their cut or imho SFI's credibility has just been reduced to zero...take your pick, you only get one
http://www.sfifoundation.com/
Don't take this personally James, but I do get quite tired of hearing about "SFI" getting there cut. Any non-profit organization has costs to bear in order to exist....SFI is the choice of both NHRA, IHRA and a host of other racing organizations picked to test and certify safety equipment and apparel. For Impact to try and bypass this system is a slap in the face to all racers that have put they're faith and trust into Impact's products regardless of whether they actually safe or not...there is NO EXCUSE EXCEPTABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF PRACTICE 
With recent problems Impact went through last year with it's products I am certainly leaning towards them being solely at fault here
Now knock it off because I'm running out of cents or maybe sense 
Rickster
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the part about why he sold...sounds like a soap opera...with some of the stories..?
he sold the company...Simpson
plane and simple..a divorce may have factor'd
but...the Ernhart stuff...never made sense to me.
the way i saw it as it was happening...
he had a new revolutionary fire proof product.
"kept that under his vest"
he sold off the old company..."Simpson"
waited for the non compete clause to expire.
then launched his new line of fire retardant products..under new name..IMPACT
its that simple..
and a smart move if you ask me..
as far as the fake SFI badging..
that was not a smart move if you ask me.
but no one asked..
so back to our regularly scheduled posts..
i have simpson and G-force stuff personally.
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I'm just tossing this in here... No real dog in this fight... But regardless of the fees associated with the sticker, there also comes a certain liability for affixing it for the certifying company. If the stuff wasn't tested properly and tagged as counterfit, then the liability is being passed to Impact without any investment by the company. It's like if Hyundai started buildig Challengers with Dodge emblems for the same money and then you wanted a Dodge dealership to warranty it. My impression after reading this is SFI is saying "we know about it and it's Impact's deal", so the liability can be pushed off them. Whether the garments or items are truly safe, I have no clue and I don't know if I'd trust them the same way. Just my thoughts here...
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: {{{{{{{ SFI Notice in Regards to IMPACT RACING }}}}}}}}
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last year IMPACT was caught selling firesuits labeled as three layer that were only two,layers
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July 19, 2009 - NOTICE OF TEMPORARY PRODUCT DECERTIFICATION. Effective July 9, 2009: Pursuant to SFI Test Laboratory reports, SFI Foundation, Inc. has reason to believe that certain Impact Racing products manufactured in the year 2007 do not fully comply with the minimum standards set forth in the SFI Specification 3.2A Program. Therefore, pursuant to Section 12.0 of the program, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, and UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, any and all driver suits, pants, and jackets manufactured by Impact Racing pursuant to SFI Spec 3.2A/15 and 3.2A/20 at any time during the year 2007 are hereby TEMPORARILY DECERTIFIED by SFI Foundation, Inc. This temporary decertification applies to all such products whether or not they have been updated, upgraded, rebadged, or recertified by Impact Racing. This temporary decertification applies even if the product now has a 2009 SFI label affixed to the product. The date of manufacture of the product is determinative.
This decertification is temporary and will remain in effect until further notice from SFI. The manufacturer has challenged SFI’s findings in this matter and is conducting its own review of the findings and the full compliance of the products in question. SFI’s investigation continues. This decertification may be modified, withdrawn, or made permanent.
Fred, you beat me to it.
i said i was never going to buy any impact products after last years fiasco with inferior product.
i knew this was going to happen eventually with impact.
its called greed, and i think this is the end for impact.i saw there produce and was not impressed by some of my fellow racers swore by impacts product because it was made in the USA.
i'm having a tough time swallowing that Impact was made in USA.im thinking made in China,with the Chinese labels, theres no other reason to try and bypass SFI. im thinking poor quality and unsafe safety equipment.
manufactured by impact
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Didn't they have problem last year or 2 years ago . Wasn't alky dragsters ,funny cars drive have a false rating and inferior material used ? thought it was Simpson then .could be wrong  DR
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i am sure Rick referred to this incident in his post..
he is doubley P.O'D i am sure as he feels duped twice....
i dont blame him....
id be p'd as well..
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Didn't they have problem last year or 2 years ago .
Wasn't alky dragsters ,funny cars drive have a false rating and inferior material used ?
thought it was Simpson then .could be wrong
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not simpson products only IMPACT
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or not. racers have enough costs to bear to stay in compliance with the rules and regulations.
