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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
[Re: prochargedhemi]
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03/16/10 10:01 PM
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Well from the sounds of it he took a wedge k-member and made it a hemi k-member. 
Thats exactly what he did. It looked like a nice job. My headers a 2 1/8 TTI. I will get it rolling and look at it closer. Seems to me there has been others that have posted with valve cover to tower issues as well as header to pitman issues. Just looking for others that have done this. I dont want to throw the k-frame conversion guy under the bus just yet. I need to see if I have pictures of the gear box in the car before I took it out.
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
[Re: PJM]
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03/16/10 10:33 PM
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If your frame rails are straight, its has to be the k member or the engine mounts or both. The k member is like the spine, if its off everything will be effected. 
Thanks the car is solid never wrecked. I am to anal at times and things are not quite right.
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
[Re: NITROUSN]
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03/16/10 10:34 PM
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Sounds like a bum k member. 
56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
[Re: Lee446]
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I did this swap recently using Schumacher motor mounts on my stock V8 K member and using 2-1/8" TTI headers. Stock stamped Hemi valve covers. Everything lined up perfect w/no issues. Maybe I just got lucky!
Well I am glad yours went right. I did mine this way to avoid the possible issues. I maybe over reacting a bit. Once I get a few more items in place I will have it sitting on tires maybe tomorrow. Then I can assess it a bit better. It seems like the gear box it tight to the tower. I ahve pics of it before but they were to dirty and crudded up to see how far the gear box is away from the tower.
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
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03/16/10 10:46 PM
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I did this swap recently using Schumacher motor mounts on my stock V8 K member and using 2-1/8" TTI headers. Stock stamped Hemi valve covers. Everything lined up perfect w/no issues. Maybe I just got lucky!
While I was going to recommend this is probally the best way to do the swap useing the Schumacher mounts, other than factory original parts,....but kinda late as Pete has already invested in the altered K frame,......you may be able to shim the passengers side mount a "little" to gain some clearance on the shock tower ( the big cast covers make it VERY tight)....but another POSSIBLE problem to focus on is the steering selector shaft clearance with the big tube HEMI TTI's,....you may have to use Flameing Rivers splined U joint assy to "sneak" by the header tube should this be an issuse using the factory knuckle,......IMHO Pete, you might want to cut a loss with the exsisting K frame if it turns into a real nightmare and run the Schmachers on a stock B/RB K,.....I know it'
s not what you want to hear
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
[Re: NITROUSN]
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03/17/10 10:27 PM
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The engine will not fit unless you take pass side valve cover off before lowering , I see u did that  The Schumakers will not work with every car , neither do the arruzas The Wisconsin guy did my GTX kframe he did a NICE JOB , and i have a set of arruza if you want to try ? What Kind of car ?
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
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03/18/10 07:19 AM
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Other side,
Also,
Are you using the correct brackets? there are two styles, one for E body that puts the engine in a different place...than yours..
It should be set up for the 69 b-body. Right now its at the body shop. We have it as a roller now. I hope to get it home in the next few days. The valve cover is an easy fix. Steering box has several issues. I may be able to shim the gear box if thats possible. Or maybe shim the motor mounts? The valve cover can be milled and a small bump in the tower should get me an easy 1/4 inch of clearance.
Stock mounts, MP iron reads, Indy aluminum covers.
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
[Re: sogtx]
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03/18/10 08:48 AM
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One thing I might add here, and I work on a lot of hemi stuff. If you are planning on running headers and any of the aftermarket K frames, then you are best to resign yourself to going with manual steering. The P/S is a big headache otherwise. If you have ever seen an original Hemi car with all original equipment-the fit is very tight in many areas. All it takes is for something to be "off" just a slight bit with the made up Hemi K frames that are available and you will have some serious fitment problems. MB
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
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03/18/10 08:59 AM
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One thing I might add here, and I work on a lot of hemi stuff.
If you are planning on running headers and any of the aftermarket K frames, then you are best to resign yourself to going with manual steering. The P/S is a big headache otherwise.
If you have ever seen an original Hemi car with all original equipment-the fit is very tight in many areas. All it takes is for something to be "off" just a slight bit with the made up Hemi K frames that are available and you will have some serious fitment problems.
MB
That's what I encountered w/ my Challenger. Other option for power steering is a J Body box that doesn't have the dome top. I had Firm Feel make one for me & Dennis shaved a little off the housing for extra clearance & add the stage 2 kit, as well. I've decided to go manual steering instead & save some weight, so will be selling the brand new J body box. I'll try to post pics.
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Re: Hemi fits toooooooooooo tight
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04/21/11 04:06 AM
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I put the same k-member from the same people in my 68 charger. Everything is very tight, just like yours. It's just the way they are, especially the TTI's. We had to modify mine/clearance to fit at the steering box & torsion bar area (2-1/4 primaries). The Indy valve covers are larger than stock so no surprise there, even the other's are very close. 
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e body motor mounts ?
