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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
[Re: BigBlockMopar]
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12/12/09 08:08 PM
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either way,with either on top  they call me the junk man I have a lot of junk but I got some fast junk  I will admit,I put a 440 in the 85 truck cause I got it for 300$ with 75,000 miles on the clock from a MH it should do sumtin..I just shaved 60 foot of MH off it and stuck it in a striped 85 short bed with 3.91 sg got 800$ in the whole thing all "used parts"  you can get some fast junk mixing stock parts around IMHO let me get a 413,i will be sure to have fun with it
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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
[Re: HYPER8oSoNic]
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12/12/09 09:00 PM
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maundmotorworks
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I agree with you as far as popularity quote.
Because it is popular, does not make it the
"world class motor", you want it to be. Chrysler
always gave the enthusiasts choices, different
strokes for different folks; no pun intended.
Their engines ALL run! Because you have a
high-dollar 440 that is run on both street and
strip, DOES NOT make me a lesser racer (read
person) cause I have a "warmed-over" 383 with
iron heads that runs 12.50's all day. If the guys
are so sure that a single type of motor is so
superior, then enroll in class type racing! Prove
your motors worth. Most of us rather "run against
the clock" and help others to improve their combos to run better. There is no room for
the "ultimate motor", unless you are bucking
for sponsorship to build them. It is called being
a student and scholar in the world of automotive
technology.
Maund Motorworks--supplier of high performance Mopar engines--specializing in B, RB, and Hemi. www.maundmotorworks.com
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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
[Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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12/12/09 10:44 PM
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This is supposed to about engines, not people, stay OT please. Some might interpet your reply as a baiting comment, I will not quote it to allow an edit, should you reconsider
 And the OP asks "Are 413 Engines really all that special?" In my opinion, no. There is nothing about them that puts them in any sort of special class, like max-wedge, hemis, 6-pack engines etc.
As far as mopar engines go, they are pretty "average" by most metrics.
Thats not to say they aren't a great engine--most mopar engines are!
But "really all that special" ??? No
oh im sorry.. did I steps on your guys TOES by questioning what a GURU said about 413's? I suggest you re-read the Gurus statements too.. they went a tad beyond the "YES or NO" answer too.
if your bothered to read my first post on this subject.. here it is again for your amusment
"make that 3 Devotees (i think you and AndyF should try building one FIRST before you guys throw out blanket statements). can't build a 413 to go eh? lol. a pontiac 455 has a bore and stroke of 4.15" × 4.21". nobody can deney that in the day it was a wickedly strong engine. 413 has a 4.18" x 3.75" bore and stroke .030" larger bore then the pontiac 455. valve sizes are roughly the same too. I wager that cube for cube.. ie: stroke a 413 to a 4" stroke making 439cid (yes i know custom pistons blah, blah, blah). the way smaller bore 413 will make more horsepower & torque then the larger bore 440. thats a guarantee"
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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
[Re: Reggie]
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12/12/09 11:17 PM
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and the self proclaimed gurus crack me up as well.
prove me wrong. if you think you get the same hosrepower from a 4.32" x 3.75" vs 4.18" x 4.00" bore and stroke 440 cid engine your sadly mistaken my friend.
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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
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12/12/09 11:29 PM
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and the self proclaimed gurus crack me up as well.
prove me wrong. if you think you get the same hosrepower from a 4.32" x 3.75" vs 4.18" x 4.00" bore and stroke 440 cid engine your sadly mistaken my friend.
you are comparing apples to oranges.. make it apples to apples and you are on! no replacement for displacement.
but really, this isnt about which block is better as both had their place in history. it is nothing about stroking one or the other, its about whether or not a 413 block is special, and well.. the answer is no. it is NO WHERE near as special as any other wedge block. they ALL can be strok'd, piston'd, head'd, or cam'd to perform.
so really you are beating a dead horse trying to get others to believe what you want to believe, which is.. well.. i have no idea what it is.
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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
[Re: dodge_nut]
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12/13/09 12:10 AM
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its which is.. well.. i have no idea what it is.
it is these STUPID claims that a 4.18" bore will not make horsepower.. that there "pathetic" "useless" etc. Hyper, bigblock, know the real story on these engines. the rest of you guys are being herded like sheep.
and Jack, the crank was a hypothetical example. 
but again.. prove it wrong.. if you can.. 
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Re: Are 413 Engines really all that special?
[Re: JonC]
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12/13/09 12:15 AM
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Jon, only if if built to HYPERPACK specs or
better. The 440 A Body should not slip the tires
at the start. If the A body hooks good, the 225 will be toast on the big end. If the A Body
burns tires past the tree and the 225 cuts a
good light, things could be interesting. Weight
is a big factor as well as traction.
"Stupidity is Ignorance on Steroids"
"Yeah, it's hopped to over 160" (quote by Kowalski in the movie Vanishing Point 1970 - Cupid Productions)
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