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Re: Wire guage
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We're still missing something easy as the ammeter would have to be before the fuse block and before the T and the T is before the fuse box because circuits such as the headlight switch ect which are hot all the time and are not fuse protected by the fuse box, current would be flowing (when they are on) but not thru the ammeter and I know that is not the case. I'm assuming you've checked out the wiring diagrams a www.mymopar.com. How is Painless wanting the ammeter to be placed in relation to their fuse box?
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Re: Wire guage
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According to Painless, the way they advise the fuse block to be wired, it does away with the ammeter. At least, that is what the tech advised. And yes, I have checked with mymopar.com, and no rallye dash wiring diagram. I have located one, but it's for the Barracuda, which has a different rallye gauge setup.
Right now, I cannot locate any wire that powers the gauges. Getting sort of bleary eyed, so I am most likely missing much here.
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Re: Wire guage
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02/23/10 01:08 AM
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Actually, this fuse block has provisions for the radio, horn, wipers, heater/AC, etc. I've already wired all those in. It also has provisions for turn signals, emergency flashers, an electric fan (if equipped), coil, ignition switch, light switch, stop switch, dome light, etc. All have been already wired in. I guess I'm only concerned about 2 things, how the gauges are powered, and how to wire in the stock ammeter.
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Re: Wire guage
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02/23/10 01:10 AM
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Right now, I cannot locate any wire that powers the gauges.
the gauges would be switched on (hence the term switched 12V) from the ign sw and the ign sw is hot all the time so it would be fed from a T before the fuse block. Sounds like Painless is suggesting that you convert to a voltmeter rather than an OE or aftermarket ammeter. EDIT just saw your post. T into the ign switch (ign1) terminal. This is switched 12V and when you turn the key to "on" the gauges will be powered
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Re: Wire guage
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that'd be in mymopars' diagrams unless that wire is different on a Ralley dash. I did my 65 dart from there wire by wire using spools & no mas and 65 darts are as bare bones as you can get
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Re: Wire guage
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that and w the diagrams being split (& cutoff) I couldn't get it either (it'll take some more time) but I'm thinking black or dark blue w a tracer feeds the printed circuit round connector. We'll get it tomorrow  EDIT I think the black wire is the 12V feed in
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Re: Wire guage
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I came up w the little black wire is the 12V feed in on the circular dash plug in. I know the ammeter has to come before anything so that it will register any flow (in either direction). Post what they say.
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Re: Wire guage
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I'm kind of at a standstill too esp as I dont have enough info on how they are wanting you to do this.
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Re: Wire guage
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Just spoke with a tech at Painless. They advise against using the stock ammeter, as it's 40 year old technology. I understand their reasoning, but I was hoping to have all my gauges functioning. They suggested the use of an aftermarket voltmeter. They also advised that there may be some company or individual that converts the ammeters to voltmeters. I'm sure this is expensive, but I would consider this if it wouldn't break the bank.
Anybody have any tips or suggestions? 
Depends on your dash. MA did a recent article on converting a 71-74 B-body rally dash ammeter to voltmeter. I did the same with my dash with a voltmeter from a JY Isuzu Trooper (forgot what year). Looks factory. It's doable on the cheap.
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Re: Wire guage
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just found the thread after read your PM... I'm out of time right now, will check later all the thread further.
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