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1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... #603034 02/03/10 09:08 PM 02/03/10 09:08 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	What are the differences between the '1973 and 1974 models? Was the standard engine a 318? I was thinking there was a 318,340(73),360 and a 400. Then you got a GTX package which nabbed you a 440 IIRC. Any production #'s? and how rare is a 4 speed car?

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603035 02/03/10 09:17 PM 02/03/10 09:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA rrunner master
rrunner master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA	What are the differences between the '1973 and 1974 models? I know the saet belts, hood and windsheild washers due to the hood change in 74 with no cowl vents. Almost forgot, the trunk pan and gas tank differ also Was the standard engine a 318? YES I was thinking there was a 318,340(73),360 and a 400. Then you got a GTX package which nabbed you a 440 IIRC. 318 73/4, 340 73, 360 74, 400 73/4 and GTX package 440 73/4 Any production #'s? and how rare is a 4 speed car? 73 340 is around 250, don't have any other figures, and no 4 spd with the 440 Last edited by rrunner; 02/03/10 09:27 PM.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603036 02/03/10 09:24 PM 02/03/10 09:24 PM
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dustergirl340 Chicken Little Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 22,873 Chicken coop	Our '73 Satellite is an original 400/4-speed. Someone told me it was one of 12. Frick if I know for sure though, I never cared enough to check.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: dustergirl340] #603037 02/03/10 09:31 PM 02/03/10 09:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX CurYellowBird mopar
CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	IMO I would go with the 73 because it is the earlier of the two produced. The further you got into the 70's the worse quality and power became on our cars. That was the reason I went with 71' roadrunner cause it was the last year before emissions and alot of good engines like the hemi and 383 disappeared. I've seen some nice 73' and 74' cars, I just could never get into the body style. My point of view is based on if you plan on sticking with the originality of the car. If you plan on customizing it, then the 73 would be a better choice because of the hood design and they were still a fairly rigid design. To me, the 73-74 don't look a whole lot different. Same goes for the 71-72 roadrunners, the only difference really is the grill and lights. Last edited by CurYellowBird; 02/03/10 09:34 PM. Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603038 02/03/10 09:49 PM 02/03/10 09:49 PM
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rrunner master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA	Quote: IMO I would go with the 73 because it is the earlier of the two produced. The further you got into the 70's the worse quality and power became on our cars. That was the reason I went with 71' roadrunner cause it was the last year before emissions and alot of good engines like the hemi and 383 disappeared. I've seen some nice 73' and 74' cars, I just could never get into the body style. My point of view is based on if you plan on sticking with the originality of the car. If you plan on customizing it, then the 73 would be a better choice because of the hood design and they were still a fairly rigid design. To me, the 73-74 don't look a whole lot different. Same goes for the 71-72 roadrunners, the only difference really is the grill and lights. Only change in a 73 and 74 hood are the cowl vent cutouts. To me the 74 hood is cleaner looking without the cutouts. Power between same C.I. wouldn'd be noticed in a 73 to 74

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603039 02/03/10 10:57 PM 02/03/10 10:57 PM
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DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	73 and 74 were basically the same car. Motors/transmissions were the same internally, except the change from 340 to 360. I know the 9 1/4 replaced the 8 3/4 for or during the 74 model year. The other minor things that nobody really cares about have already been mentioned. Gas tank change, hood cowl vents, 3-point seatbelts for 74, all minor stuff not worth mentioning. I get a good laugh when guys on here put down the 73-74 body style, seeing how realitively small of a change it is from 71-72.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603040 02/03/10 11:24 PM 02/03/10 11:24 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	A buddy from middle school had a '73 Roadrunner with a 400 in it. It was black with the white stripes, black interior. I just seemed to really get into that body style. I never did see much difference in the '73/74 but I thought I would ask the people on here that are more familiar these cars. I am wanting to check out a '74 thats fairly priced. I have heard so many times about these people saying that anything past a '71 is not worth fixing I like'em all! and if you like them, then it's worth your time to fix'em! I will admit that I've wanted a '68 RR since I was 10, however a decent '68 RR still brings some loot The parts for the newer cars are a bit cheaper. '68-70' prices still havent came back to earth yet Anyways, back to '73/4 Roadrunners! Tell me more as I really like this body style

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603041 02/03/10 11:30 PM 02/03/10 11:30 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	How is the aftermarket for these cars? Very small? I think they make more for 3rd gen Chargers now but not sure about the RoadRunners

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603042 02/03/10 11:38 PM 02/03/10 11:38 PM
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CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	Just to clear the air, I wasn't talking down about the 73'-74's. I just remember looking for my 71' and had every guy trying to offload their 73 and 74 RR onto me. The market for the 73-74's is doing quite well right now. Prior to now, the market for 71-74 b bodies was really slow. Now most aftermarket companies are producing reproduction body panels, interiors, etc. Basically, its good right now. Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603043 02/03/10 11:43 PM 02/03/10 11:43 PM
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In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	Quote: I get a good laugh when guys on here put down the 73-74 body style, seeing how realitively small of a change it is from 71-72. I would say the front end design changes from '71-2 to '73-4 are more than a small changes. Mismatched wheel arches are not an improvement, sorry.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603044 02/04/10 12:01 AM 02/04/10 12:01 AM
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DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Quote: I get a good laugh when guys on here put down the 73-74 body style, seeing how realitively small of a change it is from 71-72. I would say the front end design changes from '71-2 to '73-4 are more than a small changes. Mismatched wheel arches are not an improvement, sorry. I must be blind, cause I don't see anything mismatched. In the grand scheme of things, the grill change is minor compared to the RR change from 70-71 or 74-75.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603045 02/04/10 01:13 AM 02/04/10 01:13 AM
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NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	wiring is also TOTALLY diff between 73 and 74. gas tank straps hooks reversed than earlier models. 3 spokes wheel changed to a full padded horn button. icons to lights and wiper knobs. inner lower quarter panel diff. longer rear bumper guards and go on... With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603046 02/04/10 01:16 AM 02/04/10 01:16 AM
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strokin73cuda enthusiast S Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 228 northeast texas	Show my wife a 71-2-3-4 and she would say they are the same car but show her a 68-9 or 70 and then one of the above and she would argue that they are are even different brands but what does she know. I personally love the body lines of the 71 and up with my fav being a 73-4 with a bulge hood it has its own aggressive stance, but then again I may be biased as I used to own one. 496 stroker,Indy srs , new best 6.87 @ 98 1.46 60'

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603047 02/04/10 01:36 AM 02/04/10 01:36 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Quote: Quote: I get a good laugh when guys on here put down the 73-74 body style, seeing how realitively small of a change it is from 71-72. I would say the front end design changes from '71-2 to '73-4 are more than a small changes. Mismatched wheel arches are not an improvement, sorry. I must be blind, cause I don't see anything mismatched. In the grand scheme of things, the grill change is minor compared to the RR change from 70-71 or 74-75. What part are you not seeing? 73/74 quarters have the same arch around the wheel opening as a 71/72. In 71/72, the fenders matched the arches the quarters had. In 73/74, the fenders no longer had the arches to match the quarters, so yes, it looks mismatched. It looks like they forgot to redesign the quarters whenever I see a 73/74. I also walk right by them at car shows. Last edited by b5sixpackbee; 02/04/10 01:37 AM.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: ] #603048 02/04/10 02:20 AM 02/04/10 02:20 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	Quote: I also walk right by them at car shows. That's funny, cause the boxy, taxicab '68 thru '70s give me the glazed-eye yawns... never could see the attraction other than a big engine in a flat-faced brick. I walk right by those, especially those with grandpa dog dishes. To each his own, I guess. I prefer the grille and taillights of the '73-'74s over the '71 and '72s, obviously... I do wish they didn't have the mushy bushings throughout the chassis though... The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603049 02/04/10 02:28 AM 02/04/10 02:28 AM
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In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	Quote: Quote: Mismatched wheel arches are not an improvement, sorry. I must be blind, cause I don't see anything mismatched. Don't get me wrong, I love a '74 Satellite Sundance as much as the next guy or gal, but that's a major design hiccup to put it mildly. Come to think of it, maybe the '73's rear wheel arches were designed that way so they could all wear factory fender skirts.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603050 02/04/10 02:30 AM 02/04/10 02:30 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	But when you put the car on a rake, where it should be, they are right where they need to be... and if you were to keep it level and roll the chrome trim up to the top of the recessed lip area, like for NASCAR, it would match the front. The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: BossRide] #603051 02/04/10 02:31 AM 02/04/10 02:31 AM
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In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	Quote: But when you put the car on a rake, where it should be, they are right where they need to be.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603052 02/04/10 02:33 AM 02/04/10 02:33 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	LOL.. cause ALL successful car designs had matching front and rear openings.. Last edited by BossRide; 02/04/10 02:34 AM. The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603053 02/04/10 02:34 AM 02/04/10 02:34 AM
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DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	That little body line around the rear wheel well, that's what you're picking at? That's quite sad you guys would even notice or care about something so trivial. The only design change on these cars that's really worth noting to me is the nose, but then they did have new crash standards to meet for 73.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603054 02/04/10 02:35 AM 02/04/10 02:35 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	Quote: Quote: But when you put the car on a rake, where it should be, they are right where they need to be. You know my car looks better on a rake.. The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603055 02/04/10 02:40 AM 02/04/10 02:40 AM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX CurYellowBird mopar
CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	He's got a point there. I never noticed the wheel wells. The main differences to me are the nose and tail lights (That is if you stripped the car to bare metal). I fell in love with 71' because of Richard petty's nascar days and it was the first year of the "fuselage" rather than the box cars like my dads 67' Dart GTS. Knowing there was no way I was going to get my hands on a superbird, I decided on the next best thing IMO. 73-74 I don't like the bushings between the frame as mentioned. Makes swapping parts between b bodies a pain in the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]. I had a feeling there was going to be a war over this post lol Quote: You know my car looks better on a rake.. Yes it does Last edited by CurYellowBird; 02/04/10 02:41 AM. Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: BossRide] #603056 02/04/10 02:41 AM 02/04/10 02:41 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: BossRide] #603057 02/04/10 02:47 AM 02/04/10 02:47 AM
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CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	California rust free, 4 speed and AC. Comfortable with extra POWA! Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603058 02/04/10 04:07 AM 02/04/10 04:07 AM
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toplescuda I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,844 poplar bluff mo.	i also think these cars need a rake and a fat tire in back i just bought a set(front and rear) seat covers(white) and new foam padding for my 74 ssp , 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: toplescuda] #603059 02/04/10 07:40 AM 02/04/10 07:40 AM
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The_Mean_Machine top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,325 L�ffingen, Germany	no rake and 245s on all 4 corners... but what do I know Frank MeanMachine Cars

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: BossRide] #603060 02/04/10 07:54 AM 02/04/10 07:54 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: Quote: I also walk right by them at car shows. That's funny, cause the boxy, taxicab '68 thru '70s give me the glazed-eye yawns... never could see the attraction other than a big engine in a flat-faced brick. I walk right by those, especially those with grandpa dog dishes. To each his own, I guess. I prefer the grille and taillights of the '73-'74s over the '71 and '72s, obviously... I do wish they didn't have the mushy bushings throughout the chassis though... To each, his own People like you keep the 73/4 stuff fairly affordable.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603061 02/04/10 08:57 AM 02/04/10 08:57 AM
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moonman member M Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5 England	Daytonaturbo. I love the stance of your car, what suspension set up/wheels,tyres are you running ? cheers Doug 5781306-mycar.jpg (252 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: moonman] #603062 02/04/10 01:43 PM 02/04/10 01:43 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Any info on the available engines in '74 with a 3 speed trans? I think it was a small block car originally but owner is not sure if it was a 318 or 360...

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603063 02/04/10 01:55 PM 02/04/10 01:55 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,415 Connecticut Ron_M top fuel
Ron_M top fuel Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,415 Connecticut	Quote: Any info on the available engines in '74 with a 3 speed trans? I think it was a small block car originally but owner is not sure if it was a 318 or 360... http://beep2beep.tripod.com/Roadrunner_Production-Figures.html Common sense is a flower that does not grow in everybody's garden

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Ron_M] #603064 02/04/10 02:11 PM 02/04/10 02:11 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: Quote: Any info on the available engines in '74 with a 3 speed trans? I think it was a small block car originally but owner is not sure if it was a 318 or 360... http://beep2beep.tripod.com/Roadrunner_Production-Figures.html Thanks Apparently it's factory 318-3speed Roadrunner. Only 772 were made.. Last edited by DusterKrazy; 02/04/10 02:13 PM.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603065 02/04/10 03:14 PM 02/04/10 03:14 PM
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GYM member G Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 27 Palm Springs, CA	Quote: IMO That was the reason I went with 71' roadrunner cause it was the last year before emissions... You need to double check your research... '71 GTX 440+6 (Second Owner) '70 Road Runner 383 4spd (x 2)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: GYM] #603066 02/04/10 03:49 PM 02/04/10 03:49 PM
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CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	I did. Emission and safety standards began to take hold in 72'. Hence the 400 "smog" big block. Even my 71' has some vapor lines from the gas tank, some kind of canister below the battery tray, and noise reduction package indicating pre emissions before they were mandated by the federal government. This is on my car because it was built to california standards and sold in california. That's why most enthusiasts of ford, mopar, and chevy recognize 71' as the end of the muscle car era. Last edited by CurYellowBird; 02/04/10 03:51 PM. Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603067 02/04/10 04:21 PM 02/04/10 04:21 PM
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4BBodies mopar addict 4 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine	I agree on the wheelwells, but I still love my '73 Bird. Plymouth really could have kept the scallops on the fenders, if they tried harder. But Daytonaturbo is right, it really doesn't detract that much, especially with the funky thin wheel opening moldings. And 73's are a lot rarer than the older ones, at least in this part of the country. Never see them, on the road, or at shows. Probably due to rust issues. Most people like my '69 better, but I think the '73 was a better handling, better all around car. In a straight line.............no. My '69 will walk all over the '73, it's a big block car. But that's why I have 2 of them........the '73 has A/C and is still a hoot, and I will keep it. Plymouth and Dodge made a lot uglier cars in prior years!

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603068 02/04/10 06:49 PM 02/04/10 06:49 PM
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MonGoo$e master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,518 Indiana	I'll defend the 73+ styling here so if you look at a Challenger, which I love dearly, the character line along the side bumped up at the back wheel..not the front. Classic design. Personally, I like the 73 window lines better than the 71-72. and the front bumper/grille too My YouTube Channel, "Hoosier Garage" https://www.youtube.com/HoosierGarage

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603069 02/04/10 06:59 PM 02/04/10 06:59 PM
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GYM member G Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 27 Palm Springs, CA	Quote: I did. Emission and safety standards began to take hold in 72'. Hence the 400 "smog" big block. Even my 71' has some vapor lines from the gas tank, some kind of canister below the battery tray, and noise reduction package indicating pre emissions before they were mandated by the federal government. This is on my car because it was built to california standards and sold in california. That's why most enthusiasts of ford, mopar, and chevy recognize 71' as the end of the muscle car era. Correct; emissions requirements did become more 'strict' in '72, but they did not 'start' in '72 as you originally intimated. The separate evaporative emissions tank in your left rear fender well was a piece new for '71. (Ask any of us that were there when the '71's were new; the emissions equipment issue was already a reality...) Need more examples? Take a look at the complex smog pump set-up on late sixties Camaros and Mustangs. '71 GTX 440+6 (Second Owner) '70 Road Runner 383 4spd (x 2)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: GYM] #603070 02/04/10 08:45 PM 02/04/10 08:45 PM
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67plymouthman enthusiast 6 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 337 Colorado	My buddy cut the roof off his 73 Satellite and put 340 cuda hockey stripes on it- THE CAR LOOKS GREAT. Its cheap and a lot of fun in the summer. GO MOPARS!!

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 67plymouthman] #603071 02/04/10 09:43 PM 02/04/10 09:43 PM
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Hotwheelsjr I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,693 Surface of the Sun, AZ	I'm kinda partial to the '73/4 also, but I wouldn't hesitate to jump on a '71/2 for the right price locally.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #603072 02/04/10 11:11 PM 02/04/10 11:11 PM
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deansrr top fuel Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,034 NW Indiana	worst part, 1/4 panels nobody makes them that I can find, and I have looked. found used left still looking for right side. building a 73 and first car i purchased was a 74. always loved the car, but never cared for front grill, which is why i'm making my own. 1973 Road Runner 1974 Satellite (for sale) 1973 240z (wifes) 1993 Ramcharger (thanks Devil) 2002 Honda S2000

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: deansrr] #603073 02/05/10 12:36 AM 02/05/10 12:36 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	I've been batting around the idea of a tube grille... I'm still on the fence. Here's a photoshop version: The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Hotwheelsjr] #603074 02/05/10 12:58 AM 02/05/10 12:58 AM
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Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Quote: I'm kinda partial to the '73/4 also, but I wouldn't hesitate to jump on a '71/2 for the right price locally. That is a good lookin ride, with the perfect rake, IMO. Ive got 2 73 RRs, making one car out of 2. Waiting on my body man to get started on the body work. I think you just settled my color combo for me!!!! A buddy has a 73 that he has had for 20 years or so. It is black with white stripes, it does look pimp with draglites on it. But, I cant afford to get the body straight enough for black. Red, now that may work. Any idea what the exact paint color is? Last edited by Von; 02/05/10 12:59 AM. 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Von] #603075 02/05/10 01:13 AM 02/05/10 01:13 AM
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forphorty pro stock F Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,456 oklahoma	Von, i wondered if Bean still owned that car. Does it get driven?

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: strokin73cuda] #603076 02/05/10 01:14 AM 02/05/10 01:14 AM
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ledft79 mopar Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 587 minot north dakota	Quote: Show my wife a 71-2-3-4 and she would say they are the same car but show her a 68-9 or 70 and then one of the above and she would argue that they are are even different brands but what does she know. I personally love the body lines of the 71 and up with my fav being a 73-4 with a bulge hood it has its own aggressive stance, but then again I may be biased as I used to own one. I use to have a second gen road runner, I don't even remember what year it was [73 I think] I realy don't know the difference by looking at them.. I also had a 70 road runner and I can tell a 70 comeing from a mile away, comeing or going. Just my 5783588-mycuda.JPG (163 downloads) DRIVE EM, DONT HIDE EM.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Von] #603077 02/05/10 01:15 AM 02/05/10 01:15 AM
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70blackfish master 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,152 SO. CAL.	there was a movie called (the boys next door) it had Charlie Sheen....the car they drove was a 1973 roadrunner. I know cause I bought that car and It was my first car.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603078 02/05/10 01:19 AM 02/05/10 01:19 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: 73-74 I don't like the bushings between the frame as mentioned. Makes swapping parts between b bodies a pain in the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]. No, nobody likes those bushings. However at least you can go either poly or aluminum bushings for the k-frame and the iso torsion bar x-member. And the iso t-bar x-member can be eliminated as well if you know how to weld and pick up a set of 72 and earlier torsion bars. In all honesty, the bushings in the k-frame are over exaggerated by the naysayers. Not that big of a deal. I don't like them but they don't kill the car either. Quote: That's why most enthusiasts of ford, mopar, and chevy recognize 71' as the end of the muscle car era. But who really cares about that these days? Unless you're only interested in doing a stock resto it doesn't really matter. Guys like me doing restomods are going to make their cars what they want. Mine has absoloutely no emissions equipment, not even a charcoal can. Quote: Daytonaturbo. I love the stance of your car, what suspension set up/wheels,tyres are you running ? cheers Doug Thanks Doug. I'm running re-arched stock rear leafs and 275/60/15 tires, planning to go wider in the rear but same diameter. Really there are only two things that bother me about the 73-74's. One being nobody even repros rear 1/4 patch panels for them. The other being 71-72 fenders aren't a bolt-on. If the older nose would bolt on and if the body line wouldn't have changed for 73, I honestly would seriously consider swapping to the 71-72 nose. Not because I dislike the 73-74 nose, more because after daily driving the car for 7 years spring-fall I'm getting a bit bored with the way it looks. Got a RR hood going on this summer and maybe a color change just to freshen things up.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603079 02/05/10 01:36 AM 02/05/10 01:36 AM
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toplescuda I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,844 poplar bluff mo.	what ever happend to the guy with a compleat rear clip and the amd guys did they take him up on the offer or trading the clip for challenger sheetmetal? jim?????? 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: BossRide] #603080 02/05/10 02:35 AM 02/05/10 02:35 AM
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In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	Quote: cause ALL successful car designs had matching front and rear openings.. If you'll notice, the '57's wheel opening edges are the same size, thickness, and have a similar "flow", even though they are not exactly the same front to rear. Looking at the '73-4's again, it's not so much the shape of the openings (which look mostly symmetrical, save for the height difference) but rather the area around the openings in the quarter panels and fenders- smooth on the fenders, and with a flattened, radiused area on the rear quarter panels. Is it nit-picking? Maybe, maybe not, but it's there, and that may be the reason '74-'74s are even less popular than F-bodies. Like I said, I still like them, but I'm not sure I will ever love them.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: toplescuda] #603081 02/05/10 02:46 AM 02/05/10 02:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: what ever happend to the guy with a compleat rear clip and the amd guys did they take him up on the offer or trading the clip for challenger sheetmetal? jim?????? I just got on my friend about that earlier tonight, he hasnt called AMD yet. I suggested he do it very soon if he wants to do a deal with them before they find the pieces elswhere.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #603082 02/05/10 02:50 AM 02/05/10 02:50 AM
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toplescuda I Whine T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,844 poplar bluff mo.	give him a good wack across the noggin let him know were not messing around lol 1970 barracuda convert. 1 of 59 1970 pro street A.A.R. clone (panther pink) 1971 charger 2015 hellcat challenger. Redline red 2014 quad cab 4x4 ram 8 speed hemi

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: BossRide] #603083 02/05/10 02:51 AM 02/05/10 02:51 AM
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In_The_Pink master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,065 Milwaukee, WI	Quote: You know my car looks better on a rake.. Sorry, not a fan of a raked stance. I love the 200-S wheels, though. See, I said something nice. In all seriousness, I've always loved your car. It's one of the few '73-'74s I've kept pics of, and how many baby blue Mopars do you see? Not many, or I should say, not enough. This is probably my second favorite '73-4, and I forget whose car this is, but I wish I had a better/larger pic of it : A few other Moparts member's rides: I love this color combo, too: I love FM3, but even I have my limits : I does have a nice rake, though.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603084 02/05/10 03:00 AM 02/05/10 03:00 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	too big for pink

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603085 02/05/10 08:53 AM 02/05/10 08:53 AM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: Quote: You know my car looks better on a rake.. Sorry, not a fan of a raked stance. I love the 200-S wheels, though. See, I said something nice. In all seriousness, I've always loved your car. It's one of the few '73-'74s I've kept pics of, and how many baby blue Mopars do you see? Not many, or I should say, not enough. This is probably my second favorite '73-4, and I forget whose car this is, but I wish I had a better/larger pic of it : A few other Moparts member's rides: I love this color combo, too: I love FM3, but even I have my limits : I does have a nice rake, though. Uh..oh..the pink car gives me an idea

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603086 02/05/10 09:08 AM 02/05/10 09:08 AM
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moonman member M Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 5 England	Thanks Doug. I'm running re-arched stock rear leafs Do you mean re-tempered ?

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: In_The_Pink] #603087 02/05/10 09:14 AM 02/05/10 09:14 AM
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BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	Quote: Looking at the '73-4's again, it's not so much the shape of the openings (which look mostly symmetrical, save for the height difference) but rather the area around the openings in the quarter panels and fenders- smooth on the fenders, and with a flattened, radiused area on the rear quarter panels. I actually like that about the rear quarters... I like how the body line flows from the front fenders down into the rear quarters... but I'm not here trying to sell '73-/74s to anyone. The only thing I don't like is the lack of parts... The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: forphorty] #603088 02/05/10 10:46 AM 02/05/10 10:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Quote: Von, i wondered if Bean still owned that car. Does it get driven? Heck no!! AFAIK, the car hasnt been fired since '93 or '94. I dont think he even fired it when he moved it to his house in Glenpool. Ive tried to get him interested in it again, but no luck so far. I know his oil pan is smashed up from hitting something and he is worried about that. Also, I guess he had a small fire of some sort due to an improperly installed electronic ignition harness. Last time I talked with him I offered to come down and help him get the ignition thing figured out. I guess he got that fixed, but I still dont think he fired it. Another thing is Im feel that he was/is disappointed in how it ran........13.40s..... I had a nice converter for sale a year or so ago and you know his car needs a converter BAD. I tried to get him to buy it, but it didnt happen. His combo just needs tweaking, IMO. Gear, 'Vert, heads need checked and a real valve job (Id bet my nuts his heads are totally jacked up, judging by who did the work on them) cam needs to be in really early, etc. He was talking about pulling it out and going through the whole motor again. You know it should go mid 12's at the worst. Most of his troubles can be attributed to his helper, if you get my drift....our old buddy. Last edited by Von; 02/06/10 03:18 AM. 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: GYM] #603089 02/05/10 11:34 AM 02/05/10 11:34 AM
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DartSportDude member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 164 Arizona	Correct; emissions requirements did become more 'strict' in '72, but they did not 'start' in '72 as you originally intimated. The separate evaporative emissions tank in your left rear fender well was a piece new for '71. (Ask any of us that were there when the '71's were new; the emissions equipment issue was already a reality...) Need more examples? Take a look at the complex smog pump set-up on late sixties Camaros and Mustangs. Exactly. Emissions controls where already coming in during the late '60s, and they just gained emphasis as the 70s wore on. This idea that the muscle car era "died" in '72 in silly. It's an arbitrary "line in the sand" that's been invented by the so-called experts and magazine editors. After all, the term "performance car" is relative. I don't recall anyone being that hung-on on dates back in the day. All anyone cared about was how your car performed on the street or strip.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DartSportDude] #603090 02/05/10 01:17 PM 02/05/10 01:17 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	The wheel opening doesn't bother me at all

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603091 02/05/10 01:25 PM 02/05/10 01:25 PM
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rck850 pro stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,385 Ohio	347 four speed 360's 5784396-RRsmall.jpg (247 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: rck850] #603092 02/05/10 01:28 PM 02/05/10 01:28 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: 347 four speed 360's

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: rck850] #603093 02/05/10 01:31 PM 02/05/10 01:31 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS B BossRide top fuel
BossRide top fuel B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 Southaven, MS	Beautiful car... Honestly with my lead foot and prior history of beating on cars, I am thankful mine is an automatic. As much as I lust after a four or five-speed conversion with a GV overdrive for mad max cross country runs, I don't want to be proficient and R&Ring manual transmissions. The Blue Goose My instagram: Bossride

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DartSportDude] #603094 02/05/10 02:02 PM 02/05/10 02:02 PM
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john55 master J Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio	I don't recall anyone being that hung-on on dates back in the day. All anyone cared about was how your car performed on the street or strip. I can recall looking for used engines back then , we always wanted 1970 or older for performance, something about compression ratios The Plymouth Win You Over Beat Goes On

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: john55] #603095 02/05/10 02:17 PM 02/05/10 02:17 PM
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CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: john55] #603096 02/05/10 02:21 PM 02/05/10 02:21 PM
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72roadrunnergtx super stock Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 765 Shoreline, Washington	For those of you who didn�t live it, exhaust emission regulations were not the only bullets that killed the �muscle car era�. The skyrocketing insurance rates based on engine size and the �oil shortages� of the early seventies contributed just as much, if not more, to the plunge in performance car sales that eventually led to their demise. How many of us here remember waiting in lines for hours to buy the 10 gallon limit of gas every other day (odd even days) to feed our beasts to go cruise or just get to work. Or cringing when the insurance agent wanted your vin number so he could figure out how much more that engine code is going to cost you this year. Most of us working at the dealers then accept that the Mopar �Performance� car era really ended when the standard engine offered in something like the Road Runner had a single 2bbl carburetor on it, 73-74� 318? As mentioned, really means nothing today unless you�re a collector. Those 5mph bumpers did more to detract from the original four-gen Plymouth b-body design than anything else IMO. Yes compression ratios started dropping around 71� IIRC (383HP 8.5:1?). For both emission reduction and to be able to use cheaper less refined/lower octane fuel. 1972 Road Runner GTX 440 6bbl 5-speed [img]http://72rrgtx.com/carpics/bucket/DSC06730r-1.jpg[/img]

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 72roadrunnergtx] #603097 02/05/10 03:09 PM 02/05/10 03:09 PM
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DartSportDude member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 164 Arizona	There's no question performance declined after 1970. However, the rise of the "collector car mentality" of the last decade or so has really skewed the outlook on so-called muscle cars. For many in this hobby, the fender tag pedigree of a car now overshadows its actual performance -- which, as we all know, can be radically altered by an engine/suspension build up. Let's face it: a '73 Roadrunner with a low compression 440 can be modified to run very close with a bone stock, high-compression 440 from earlier years. Which one is the "true" muscle car? I've always looked at the styling of the cars from the 60/70s as defining the "muscle car" era. The overall appearance of most cars really changed into the late 70s and early 80s. Others may a different idea.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DartSportDude] #603098 02/05/10 06:13 PM 02/05/10 06:13 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	A '76 440 can run everybit as good as a '70 440 with some work

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603099 02/05/10 06:38 PM 02/05/10 06:38 PM
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jrwoodjoe master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,526 Tenn.	Hmmmm, never paid much attention the mismatched wheel arch thing. Anyway, here's my old 73 RR. Sorry, only have a black and white photo that I took when I was almost done fixing it up. Was a 318 car but replaced it with a 383 6 Pak. I like 'em. Joe 5784911-73RR.JPG (241 downloads) 65 Barracuda 70 Challenger

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603100 02/05/10 06:44 PM 02/05/10 06:44 PM
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screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,195 Harrisburg, Pa.	I've wondered what the front fenders would look like if you grafted the earlier style opening on there... ..Looks like they opened them up for nascar back in the day... ..Anyhow...I've seen alot of good quarters for the 73-74s{even 71-2s for that matter} on here the past few years but it seems nobody wants to part with the cash the seller is asking for them so to me it seems like it's a money issue more than availability...They want them but they want them cheap .... 5784924-nascarrr.jpg (182 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603101 02/05/10 07:07 PM 02/05/10 07:07 PM
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tippytoe super stock Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 828 Winchester, In	My 73. The original color (dark green) has been changed, but it still has the number's matching 340 & 4-speed. 5784958-darren\'s010.jpg (370 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Von] #603102 02/05/10 08:04 PM 02/05/10 08:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,456 oklahoma F forphorty pro stock
forphorty pro stock F Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,456 oklahoma	Quote: Quote: Von, i wondered if Bean still owned that car. Does it get driven? Heck no!! AFAIK, the car hasnt been fired since '93 or '94. I dont think he even fired it when he moved it to his house in Glenpool. Ive tried to get him interested in it again, but no luck so far. I know his oil pan is smashed up from hitting something and he is worried about that. Also, I guess he had a small fire of some sort due to an improperly installed electronic ignition harness. Last time I talked with him I offered to come down and help him get the ignition thing figured out. I guess he got that fixed, but I still dont think he fired it. Another thing is Im feel that he was/is disappointed in how it ran........13.40s..... I had a nice converter for sale a year or so ago and you know his car needs a converter BAD. I tried to get him to buy it, but it didnt happen. His combo just needs tweaking, IMO. Gear, 'Vert, heads need checked and a real valve job (Id bet my nuts his heads are totally jacked up, judging by who did the work on them) cam needs to be in really early, etc. He was talking about pulling it out and going through the whole motor again. You know it should go mid 12's at the worst. Most of his troubles can be attributed to his helper, if you get my drift....or old buddy. I hear ya Thanks for the update. I remembered that he ran a mid 13. If memory serves, that was with some borrowed 4.56s. I cant remember the specifics of the build but seems like it had a 509 and an M-1 single plane on it? Stock coverter? Yikes. Lots of potential. I think the last time i saw him (been years ago), he told me the oil had only been changed once. Hope he keeps it inside,was a really nice car.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: forphorty] #603103 02/06/10 03:20 AM 02/06/10 03:20 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	[quote. If memory serves, that was with some borrowed 4.56s. I cant remember the specifics of the build but seems like it had a 509 and an M-1 single plane on it? Stock coverter? Yikes. Lots of potential. I think the last time i saw him (been years ago), he told me the oil had only been changed once. Hope he keeps it inside,was a really nice car. Ya, 4.56s, Hemi converter that I doubt flashed much over 2500. .509, stock 452s, compression would be lucky to get 9 to 1. M1, 850 DP. Not much, but dang more than enough for 12s. 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Von] #603104 02/06/10 07:53 AM 02/06/10 07:53 AM
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Hawg_Man member Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 29 South Carolina	Kinda like the 74-74 (Reasonable Price Still) but have had a few comments "Nice Torino")....UGH. 5785876-cars005.JPG (230 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Hawg_Man] #603105 02/06/10 01:09 PM 02/06/10 01:09 PM
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69superbee383 master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,679 Va. Beach, Va	Werent the bumpers and brackets different between the 73 and 74. Oh and the whole muscle car era ended in 71 is BS. My 73 340 Duster ran just fine back in the day and a friend had a 74 RR / GTX 440 and I dont recall any of us not considering it a muscle car. Now from 75 and on is debatable but even then some good stuff still slipped through. 77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440 70 Coronet 440 N code 3 speed

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 69superbee383] #603106 02/06/10 03:16 PM 02/06/10 03:16 PM
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-Cuda top fuel - Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,225 Silsbee,Tx	Here is my 73 Satty. I got it from a member here out of Arz.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: -Cuda] #603107 02/07/10 11:32 PM 02/07/10 11:32 PM
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DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Anybody know the value or should I say WIW on a '74 roadrunner? 318 car w/a 3speed stick? no motor and has not been on the road in years. Everything else is there and will need typical quarter repair. Just figure it as a restorable project? Last edited by DusterKrazy; 02/07/10 11:33 PM.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603108 02/08/10 03:53 AM 02/08/10 03:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX CurYellowBird mopar
CurYellowBird mopar Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 583 San Antonio, TX	Did 74' roadrunners come with 318's? My best estimate would be 1500 to 2k. It doesn't have an engine and sounds like you got repairs that need to be done in the trunk probably as well. The only thing your really paying for is the name at that point. But I could be wrong, you do get some guys out there who are trying to sell bare bones dodge darts with slant 6's for premium because of barret jackson. Project War Bird: 1971 Plymouth Roadrunner 383 4 speed with air conditioning GY3 Curious yellow All original

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 69superbee383] #603109 02/08/10 11:19 AM 02/08/10 11:19 AM
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DartSportDude member Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 164 Arizona	Quote: Oh and the whole muscle car era ended in 71 is BS. My 73 340 Duster ran just fine back in the day and a friend had a 74 RR / GTX 440 and I dont recall any of us not considering it a muscle car. Now from 75 and on is debatable but even then some good stuff still slipped through. Exactly. I don't recall ANYONE obsessing over this issue back in the day. Guys realized that the higher compression engines had more punch, but generally speaking, each car was judged on its own merits.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: toplescuda] #603110 02/08/10 11:51 AM 02/08/10 11:51 AM
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OldHippie super gas O Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 660 East Lansing, Michigan	I have a '73 RR and have always been just a bit more in to this body style than the '69 I bought new. Not ranking on the early body style, just personal preference. I do like the less cluttered lines of a SSP over the RR bulge hood, though. The Old Hippie Hisself

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DartSportDude] #603111 02/08/10 11:58 AM 02/08/10 11:58 AM
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dan9 super stock D Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,023 pa.	also what helped the pre 1971 mopars is we could and did buy many 68-70 road runners for under $1000 in the early 70's. it was a no brainer then.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: CurYellowBird] #603112 02/08/10 01:00 PM 02/08/10 01:00 PM
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72roadrunnergtx super stock Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 765 Shoreline, Washington	Quote: Did 74' roadrunners come with 318's? The 318 with dual exhaust was the standard Road Runner engine starting in 73�. The 79-80�f-body Road Runner Standard engine was the 225 slant 6. 1972 Road Runner GTX 440 6bbl 5-speed [img]http://72rrgtx.com/carpics/bucket/DSC06730r-1.jpg[/img]

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603113 02/08/10 03:12 PM 02/08/10 03:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: Anybody know the value or should I say WIW on a '74 roadrunner? 318 car w/a 3speed stick? no motor and has not been on the road in years. Everything else is there and will need typical quarter repair. Just figure it as a restorable project? Hard to say without pics, but sounds like a $500-1k car to me.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #603114 02/09/10 03:09 PM 02/09/10 03:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: Quote: Anybody know the value or should I say WIW on a '74 roadrunner? 318 car w/a 3speed stick? no motor and has not been on the road in years. Everything else is there and will need typical quarter repair. Just figure it as a restorable project? Hard to say without pics, but sounds like a $500-1k car to me. I believe you are in the ball park with that. The manual trans is a plus though... I found a '73 Roadrunner 340 auto car that needs a fair bit of resto. Comes with an extra hood and it does have the numbers matching 340. I think his $3000 asking price is a little much though. I like the '73/4's, but paying $3k and then having to fix it (me doing all the labor), I'd be better off to get a running car that needs little work. My '70 Charger is already a money pit

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603115 02/09/10 05:20 PM 02/09/10 05:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	I know '73/4 anything here does not get much love but c'mon...

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603116 02/10/10 04:14 PM 02/10/10 04:14 PM
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Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603117 02/10/10 08:29 PM 02/10/10 08:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,378 KY USA mopargem master
mopargem master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,378 KY USA	Several years ago I helped restore this 74 360 runner for my younger brother, he still owns it and has become a big Mopar enthusiast. 5796107-74RR(Small).jpg (406 downloads) 68 Polara 500...LL1 Y7 M6X 69 Hemi road runner...X9 X9 M6X 69 A12 road runner....R4 R4 M6X 69 ModTop FLORAL Super Bee...F 70 AAR 'cuda...EW1 EW1 H4X9 71 Duster 340...FJ6 V24 L6X9 71 road runner FC7 V1X M6X9 72 Rallye Charger B5 V1W 74 'cuda 360...KB5 V1X A6X9 08 SRT Challenger #234

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: mopargem] #603118 02/10/10 11:48 PM 02/10/10 11:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: Several years ago I helped restore this 74 360 runner for my younger brother, he still owns it and has become a big Mopar enthusiast.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DusterKrazy] #603119 02/14/10 06:54 PM 02/14/10 06:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Have not got it home yet, but just bought a '74 and Im pretty stoked about it

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: DartSportDude] #603120 06/24/10 09:23 AM 06/24/10 09:23 AM
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xp170 member X Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1 Australia	If you really want to know why the myth that 1971 was the last year for musclecars keeps being perpetuated, then listen up. It's because the whole "musclecar" legend has been hijacked by early baby-boomers who think the only decade worth remembering is the 1960s. Anything built after 1970-71 is thought of as inferior to years previous, mainly because it doesn't fit in with memories of their youth. You guys, however, seem like me (a member of the "Jones" generation, or late baby-boomers), who know that any mid-seventies musclecar is just a camshaft and headers away from performing as well as any '60s musclecar, but with better handling, brakes and safety to boot! Bring on the seventies I say!

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: xp170] #603121 06/24/10 11:02 AM 06/24/10 11:02 AM
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Paul_Fancsali master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,931	My 73 Sat is a big pile as far as I'm concerned but she runs good and will take a good hit esp with those monster bumpers. I like the room the car inside and fact that you can reach things under the hood. There are parts from a dozen cars on this one, but I keep it because I like it. I knew guys that bought two different 1973 Road runners one a 340 auto car and a 318 4spd this guy wanted a track pak but could not get it,so he ordered hd cooling and 3.55s as 3.91 were unavailable. So like them or hate the 73 74s I could care less, I like to race the big blue!. Top it off this morning I saw a new Mustang that was same color Petty blue B-3

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: Paul_Fancsali] #603122 06/24/10 06:16 PM 06/24/10 06:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine 4 4BBodies mopar addict
4BBodies mopar addict 4 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine	This thread is still alive??? Ok then, more thoughts.........when I got my '73 I thought it would be cool because it was the last year of the 340, and that it had A/C and a 28" radiator. And also that it would look good next to a '71 Superbee someday..........priority's, you know...........anyway, the musclecar ship may have been sinking by '73, but the Roadrunner looked better than a Chevelle or a Mustang for that year.........

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 4BBodies] #603123 07/06/10 03:27 PM 07/06/10 03:27 PM
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kb73rr member Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 61 Brighton, MI, USA	Here is my resto-mod 73 RR. Couldn't get fenders or QPs so it's all new fabricated sheet metal, with a little more flare in the back. Despite the modern Inferno Red color change I still get the occasional Starsky and Hutch Car comment or question. However, I get some "beep beeps" on the road so that's a good sign. I liked seeing all the other ones alive and well posted in this thread. Thanks guys! 6071852-outside_11-09-09_1.jpg (963 downloads) 1973 Road Runner 2006 Grand Cherokee http://www.muskie-lures.com/73roadrunner/index1.htm "An entrance ramp is a terrible thing to waste"

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: kb73rr] #603124 07/06/10 04:22 PM 07/06/10 04:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 199 beentheredonethat A AverageJoe member
AverageJoe member A Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 199 beentheredonethat	I like 'em .... except this one : 6071940-Car&Kurt09.jpg (508 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: AverageJoe] #603125 07/06/10 04:24 PM 07/06/10 04:24 PM
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screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,195 Harrisburg, Pa.	I bet people would move out of the way for you when they see that coming up behind them...

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: screamindriver] #603126 07/06/10 04:48 PM 07/06/10 04:48 PM
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screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,195 Harrisburg, Pa.	Here's a 73 factory sunroof car.... I'm in the final stages of tuning...Used a 4:10 8 3/4 e-body rear with super stock springs...The 10 inch rims and 28 inch tall tire fit nicely...Gives a great look from the back.. 6071981-rearshot.jpg (218 downloads)

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: screamindriver] #603127 07/06/10 07:17 PM 07/06/10 07:17 PM
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AverageJoe member A Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 199 beentheredonethat	That is shweeeet. Mine is black w/white graphics as well, but has a black half-vinyl top.

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: AverageJoe] #603128 07/07/10 08:32 AM 07/07/10 08:32 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine 4 4BBodies mopar addict
4BBodies mopar addict 4 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine	Yup, they do look great from the back. Like something else that comes to mind..........

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 4BBodies] #603129 07/09/10 03:45 PM 07/09/10 03:45 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 756 North Florida R RebelDart super street
RebelDart super street R Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 756 North Florida	Quote: Yup, they do look great from the back. Like something else that comes to mind.......... You mean Torinos ?

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: RebelDart] #603130 07/09/10 05:35 PM 07/09/10 05:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine 4 4BBodies mopar addict
4BBodies mopar addict 4 Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 708 Mechanic Falls, Maine	Ha............you've been watching too many "Fast & Furious" movies............I think you know what I meant...........

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: 4BBodies] #603131 07/09/10 09:07 PM 07/09/10 09:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 25 Atlantic Mine MI YooperLon member
YooperLon member Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 25 Atlantic Mine MI	You would not beleive the hassle it was for me to post this pic. I read Wild Bills "how to" in the tech archive. The previous attempts I had picked the wrong box on PhotoBucket. I hope this works. Anyhoo, just wanted to post a pic of my ride. There are a lot of sweet rides on this thread. 73 Satellite 440-727-8.75 97 Ram Sport 4X4 5.2Magnum

Re: 1973/74 Roadrunners..tell me about them.... [Re: screamindriver] #603132 07/15/10 12:03 PM 07/15/10 12:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy OP master
DusterKrazy OP master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	Quote: Here's a 73 factory sunroof car.... I'm in the final stages of tuning...Used a 4:10 8 3/4 e-body rear with super stock springs...The 10 inch rims and 28 inch tall tire fit nicely...Gives a great look from the back.. I like that!

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