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Aluminum rod, How many runs? #593874
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G.R.p. aluminum rods, How many runs till they should be replaced. I am approaching 250, what chance do I have for one more year? about 125 passes. 7600 rpm at the traps, 572 inch motor, indy maxx aluminum block. thanks

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Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #593875
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I'd say change them. Cheaper now then when one lets go.

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #593876
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I have BME's in mine. I asked the same question at Ken Veney's shop the other day and they said if you're thinking about them it's time replace them.

I've been thinking about mine for a while

I'll have to wait til next year

There was a thread on here about who runs aluminum rods on the street and someone posted some good info from BME's site. FWIW

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: roadhazard] #593877
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Maybe newer alum rods are better nowdays,but windowed a block years ago with BME's after 175 hits. Current engine builder insisted on GOOD steel rods[C&A] and ok after 2 builds and 10 years. 820hp and 7800rpm. Your results may vary.

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Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: Barnstorm] #593878
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I have 500+ on a set of BME's I just took out. There are BBC racers over on DragRaceResults with 600+ on the GRP's.

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #593879
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It will have a few factors but weight of the piston
and the rpm BUT I was told 600 runs then measure them
and that was in a higher rpm set up than yours

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: sixpakdodge] #593880
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My first set of aluminum rods where bmes 500 plus passes no failures. I'm on my second set of GRP'S the first set had 600 passes and measured fine (By grp) but they talked me into another set that I currently have 250 passes and have no problems running them another season. 500ci 7200rpm through the traps.

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Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: atoetly] #593881
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i hAve taken two set out at 200 passes and they measure the same as they went in.....BUT they can let go when you least expect . Im using nitrous, you are running NA? Prob can get one more season on them Also which ones do you have?? I get the best ones with the larger bolts in them, they are pretty beefy and seem to last a while. 1fastmopar puts a ton of passes on his, def more than 200....


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Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: n20mstr] #593882
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No power adders here. And even though I don't much care for elvis his experience with GRP rods has me sold on them.

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: atoetly] #593883
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No power adders here. And even though I don't much care for elvis his experience with GRP rods has me sold on them.




I got a set of GRP alum rods for my BB B1 M/C engine

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #593884
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Can't wait to try my new aluminum crank....LOL


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Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: Barnstorm] #593885
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a guy that races in the same class as me has a BB Chevy, GRP's...they have over 500 passes on them, ALL with nitrous, and some have been in the 7.70 range so you know he is getting after it sometimes.


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Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: Barnstorm] #593886
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Can't wait to try my new aluminum crank....LOL




Plastic is the way to go...top secret stealth bomber stuff I've always heard 500 on alum rods.


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Can't wait to try my new aluminum crank....LOL




Plastic is the way to go...top secret stealth bomber stuff I've always heard 500 on alum rods.




I wonder if they can nitrid that plastic stuff? Make it even more unobtanium.

Now back to reality. When I spoke with someone from GRP he told me that when they tested their rods the failures where always the bolts. And these are the finest arp bolts made.

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: atoetly] #593888
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Current engine builder insisted on GOOD steel rods[C&A] and ok after 2 builds and 10 years. 820hp and 7800rpm. Your results may vary.




I would certainly listen to him!!

Although I think you are ok bigdog I would say 400 passes about max, or 3 years. I don't like aluminum, always afraid they will break and results are catastrophic. Over rev and they stretch. Not gonna happen with steel.

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GRP is good stuff. The life of the rod is going to depend on the rod-ratio, what your swinging, and the end user. I wouldn't worry at 250 passes unless the ratio is way short and/or you make a habit of beating on the motor cold. But, 500-600 passes are not equal in all applications either.
As for the other comments, I have seen an aluminum crank and plastic connecting rods.

Good Luck

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #593890
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In my 10000 RPM hemi I replace em every 18-20 runs. No wonder it cost thousands per run. I have a nice collection of used rods, made some clocks out of them last xmas for gifts. lol I have 100+ rods laying around the shop,

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Larry I would replace them. With the horsepower your making I think your on the borderline. I am getting ready to order new ones for my car after one season. We broke one (GRP small big end) in dads car around 100 passes. We later found out that was about the limit for that type of rod.
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Thank you all for your replies, I think I will order a new set just to be on the safe side, even though the engine is diapered, you never know what will happen and would rather error on the side of caution!

Re: Aluminum rod, How many runs? [Re: BigDog68Dart] #593893
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You might want to take a good look at the pistons also. I been told on 572 and up motors 2 seasons on them.
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