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Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? #585221 01/17/10 12:59 PM 01/17/10 12:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 429 Sherman Texas T The Shocker OP mopar
The Shocker OP mopar T Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 429 Sherman Texas	I am into Nostalgia type drags (pre 65) and most of the events that i attend all over are heads up.There are a few that are pushing for a dial in type platform to make it more even .The problem is i and others dont like it .Is there another wat to make it more even ,besides a handicap start? I realise that alot of people make money at it and thats great ,but its just not as fun to watch IMO ,as a heads up deal.I race just for fun and dont really care if i win or not .The guys with the slower (14 second and up cars)are the ones that are pushing for the Bracket thing .Isnt there other ways like weight /cubic inch to handle it better? How did they used to do it back in the day to keep it more fair between these old mixed matched hotrods?In my case with my 11.40 ET Dart i get put into the Comp class.I have a mild stroker 408 with a 750 Carb ,and i am running heads up against 9 and 10 second Big Block ,backhalfed cars ,because im too fast for the other class of Gas/Coupe/Sedan .I am trying along with others to give these guys that put on these events sum ideas on how to make it more even matches...:( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585222 01/17/10 01:05 PM 01/17/10 01:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO. S Slingshot383 mopar
Slingshot383 mopar S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 684 St. Charles, MO.	Check out www.nostalgiaprocomp.com, and see if that's what you're looking for. Great group of racers. 1994 Undercover Chassis 125" altered stack injected big block, soon blown and injected Member of The Torque and Recoil Club

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Slingshot383] #585223 01/17/10 02:18 PM 01/17/10 02:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,314 The Swamp MegaDart master
MegaDart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,314 The Swamp	Bracket racing is so gay and the index racing I mean come on Good luck finding what you are looking for... perhaps and 11.40 smallblock dart class with 750cfm carb, best 2 out of 3

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585224 01/17/10 02:44 PM 01/17/10 02:44 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 415 Peru cbarracuda mopar
cbarracuda mopar Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 415 Peru	11 10 9 seg index 3rouns to classified heads up final

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585225 01/17/10 02:54 PM 01/17/10 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,987 Anoka County, MN L Leigh master
Leigh master L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,987 Anoka County, MN	Heads up is a money sponge. However, an idea would be to make the breaks pretty tight i.e., 9.00-9.50, 10.0-10.50 (.50 steps) then turn the tree into green start. This is where the timer starts when the green comes on, thus allowing the lower dollar cars, and drivers who can't go .400 or .500, to figure out where they fit, to compete with the higher dollar, harder leaving money sponges. Since your reaction time is now included in your dial-in, er, I mean your "index", the whole field should tighten up considerably. Me, too much bs, I'll just scribble a different number with my sharpened up shoe polish.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: MegaDart] #585226 01/17/10 03:05 PM 01/17/10 03:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City C camastomcat top fuel
camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	Quote: Bracket racing is so gay and the index racing I mean come on Good luck finding what you are looking for... perhaps and 11.40 smallblock dart class with 750cfm carb, best 2 out of 3 Well, as for bracket racing being gay, it's alot more technical than first the finish line stuff. And class racing is even harder. The reason for brackets and classes is so the one with the most money didn't win every week. So.....you must have alot of money! But some of us don't and still like to compete, at a very high level I might add. Top Sportsman might be a good class for you if you think bracket racing is gay.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: camastomcat] #585227 01/17/10 04:21 PM 01/17/10 04:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,110 toledo, ohio plasticfantastic top fuel
plasticfantastic top fuel Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,110 toledo, ohio	probably not the reply that will be popular, but given the thread title, i love drag racing, in any form, but heads up racing is not one of my favorites, I'd watch it, (and do on occasion at Milan on the first Friday of each month, <plug plug>) BUT it makes me feel like i'm watching an never ending run of time trials. not putting it down, because I think there is room for all forms of racing, but I dont see the excitement when someone rolls up in a prostock chassis car, with a mountain motor on nitrous outrun the field by a second or more. To me its not about whos in the stands, if you need that validation then it wont matter what racing you participate in, I like the competition, I like that you can roll up in anything and race it and you win or lose based on your ability and not just on your pocketbook. so heres a vote for bracket/index racing.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: camastomcat] #585228 01/17/10 04:24 PM 01/17/10 04:24 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,095 Idaho Runner master
Runner master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,095 Idaho	Quote: Quote: Bracket racing is so gay and the index racing I mean come on Good luck finding what you are looking for... perhaps and 11.40 smallblock dart class with 750cfm carb, best 2 out of 3 Well, as for bracket racing being gay, it's alot more technical than first the finish line stuff. And class racing is even harder. The reason for brackets and classes is so the one with the most money didn't win every week. So.....you must have alot of money! But some of us don't and still like to compete, at a very high level I might add. Top Sportsman might be a good class for you if you think bracket racing is gay. pretty sure megadarts comments are sarcasm

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Runner] #585229 01/17/10 04:34 PM 01/17/10 04:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,491 PA moparacer top fuel
moparacer top fuel Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,491 PA	Quote: Good luck finding what you are looking for... perhaps and 11.40 smallblock dart class with 750cfm carb, best 2 out of 3 Awww what the heck lets throw a bald headed guy on the line and race for pink slips. Oh wait a second.... The day they eliminate bracket racing will be the day I finally stop wasting money on this hobby. 67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Runner] #585230 01/17/10 04:36 PM 01/17/10 04:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,314 The Swamp MegaDart master
MegaDart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,314 The Swamp	Quote: pretty sure megadarts comments are sarcasm FYI, Top Sportsman is fast bracket racing c'mon .90 racing is tough? If I had enough bananas I could teach a monkey to do it! Last edited by MegaDart; 01/17/10 04:40 PM.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585231 01/17/10 04:50 PM 01/17/10 04:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	Quote: I realise that alot of people make money at it and thats great ,but its just not as fun to watch IMO ,as a heads up deal.I race just for fun and dont really care if i win or not . good thing you don't care if you win and like watching. you'll get to do a lot of both running heads up. racing has changed dramatically over the years. trying to keep cars evenly matched rarely if ever works. i don't think anyone is really in love with bracket racing but otherwise it's a test of finances as opposed to skill. any of the jokers that think the "box" drives the car would get trailered in short order.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: jamesc] #585232 01/17/10 04:55 PM 01/17/10 04:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,314 The Swamp MegaDart master
MegaDart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,314 The Swamp	Quote: any of the jokers that think the "box" drives the car would get trailered in short order. what'ya mean I thought if I put a 9.90 in there and had one of those throttle stop thingy's that's what the car would run? It that why I been losing all those rounds?

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: jamesc] #585233 01/17/10 05:15 PM 01/17/10 05:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,489 St. Louis Mo. 10 o to go "Happy Don"
10 o to go "Happy Don" Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,489 St. Louis Mo.	agreed jamesc Majority of us won't go nhra or ihra class racing thats total $$$$ and class commitment . I've BRACKET race 33 years my pocket book is so shallow ,bracket racing keeps me a bracket that I can compete in and have FUN . I've done the heads up deal this year ,but I can't figure out why a 10.30 10.50 would enter a 10.0 class . If your not close then sandbagging a class up is the next option and on the the brakes. Neither are spectator oriented .Only if its a national event ,PINKS,,something new . Gir has the SCSS heads up tue nites, but that doesn't draw that many cars or specs . But when you have 8,7 sec cars tube chassis's with double stackers ,DO you really call them street cars ? The tracks are trying to find a middle ground for all types of racing . DR 5741661-BKD9-11-01_302C.jpg (31 downloads) 2009 418" build dan smith built new 9.96 131.82 6.23 108 1.30 60 foot best to date 9/15/09 8in 727 430 dana 2860 lb 3040 lb w driver

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: 10 o to go] #585234 01/17/10 05:19 PM 01/17/10 05:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,355 Las Vegas	That box racing must be easy...Everyone on the internets says it is... "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Al_Alguire] #585235 01/17/10 05:33 PM 01/17/10 05:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Since we attend a lot of racing events with heads-up,index,class and bracket racing I can tell you the any good bracket racer is the guy you want to avoid.Be it a foot brake or box racer,he will hand you your butt at the stripe or on the timeslip.Me I like racing period..... [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Al_Alguire] #585236 01/17/10 05:37 PM 01/17/10 05:37 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 429 Sherman Texas T The Shocker OP mopar
The Shocker OP mopar T Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 429 Sherman Texas	I think we are losing track of matter at hand.99% of the guys that are racing at the events i attend ( pre 65 Nostalgia )are working guys like me .There is no big $$$ to be gained if we win.I am just looking for another way to have us race heads up ,and be somewhat even.There are usually 200 + cars at these events ranging from 8's (only a couple) all the way up to 19's ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585237 01/17/10 05:41 PM 01/17/10 05:41 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	I love bracket racing...I've put away a number of 10 second cars, and been spanked by a few 15 second sedans. I don't have the funds, nor would I spend them anyway to have the fastest truck at the track. So bracket racing it is...Better than just making laps on TT days. 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Al_Alguire] #585238 01/17/10 05:44 PM 01/17/10 05:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,441 Mo. S supercomp master
supercomp master S Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,441 Mo.	Wif dem dar boxes a blind man could win.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: MegaDart] #585239 01/17/10 05:48 PM 01/17/10 05:48 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City C camastomcat top fuel
camastomcat top fuel C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,128 Salt Lake City	Quote: Quote: pretty sure megadarts comments are sarcasm FYI, Top Sportsman is fast bracket racing c'mon .90 racing is tough? If I had enough bananas I could teach a monkey to do it! OK, I guess you can't be serious with that comment, and I'm well aware of what Top Sportsman is, alot of cash to qualify, and fast bracket racing. More than some of the nostalgia cars.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585240 01/17/10 05:51 PM 01/17/10 05:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,489 St. Louis Mo. 10 o to go "Happy Don"
10 o to go "Happy Don" Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,489 St. Louis Mo.	Quote: I think we are losing track of matter at hand.99% of the guys that are racing at the events i attend ( pre 65 Nostalgia )are working guys like me .There is no big $$$ to be gained if we win.I am just looking for another way to have us race heads up ,and be somewhat even.There are usually 200 + cars at these events ranging from 8's (only a couple) all the way up to 19's ... Then the 9.50 10.00 ,10.50 11.00 and up might work ,still looks like bracket racing . No track is going to spend the time to do weight,HP ,what mod are done to each.Get them down the track get a winner shut the gates ,turn the lites off . DR 5741748-BKD9-09-18_065A.jpg (25 downloads) 2009 418" build dan smith built new 9.96 131.82 6.23 108 1.30 60 foot best to date 9/15/09 8in 727 430 dana 2860 lb 3040 lb w driver

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