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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: MegaDart] #585261
01/17/10 09:55 PM
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I'm flat broke, and couldn't race at all if not for bracket racing. I take my slow junk to the track and do my best to turn on the occasional win light, and maybe take home a little cash or a dust collector. I just paid $450 for a car that I'll put a few hundred more into and go run 19s at the local tracks. Heads up is fun to watch, but I couldn't do it, unless someone wants to let me drive their car.
By the way, Norwalk has seats right at the finish line. THAT is where bracket racing can be very fun to watch!


Ron H.
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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: justinp61] #585262
01/17/10 09:58 PM
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Bracket racing is all I can afford. As soon as I hit the lotto or some rich relative that I have never met kicks the bucket and leaves me a few drums of cash, I will do some heads up racing. If you want to heads up and not have a quarter million in the car, ya need to step the car up and index race. Oh wait, you would have to spend MORE money on it and would prob get ya rear handed to ya again. If ya keep practicing, you can prob figure out how to do the "bracket thing" and not be so sore about it. Good luck with it either way you decide to race.


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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: StandOnIt] #585263
01/17/10 10:05 PM
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Thats the only thing we have in this area...These guys around here are absolute sharks on the tree and driving the strip... To win on any given weekend at my local race tracks, you would pretty much need to cut double O'h lights and run dead on within a 3 number...Think Im kiddin

Shoot to even place in foot brake class these guys cut O-teen lights, and run dead on also..


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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: StandOnIt] #585264
01/17/10 10:12 PM
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gulfport, ms, west mi
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Just go back and wax your car, you couldn't cut a light if you tried, oh, that's right you tried it once and got beat. Why don't you go to the casino , put your money in the change machine over and over, you'll be a winner every time. Or just go wax your car and tell every body how fast it is.



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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: RonTheAnnouncer] #585265
01/17/10 10:14 PM
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Maybe i should try and explain this better.Heres the deal at the Nostalgia events that i go to the theme is to have racing like they would on a country road somewhere (but legal on a Dragstrip).If you were racing on a country road you would drop a flag and go ,and the first one to the stripe would win.The problem we have now is that there are too many different level of cars running ,ranging from 8's to 19's.We only have 5 classes .One being stock ,another being Gas coupe/sedan (which is about 80% of the cars),dragster ,flatheads and 6 cylinders ,and Comp Coupe.I use to have a 13.5 4 spd Falcon that i drove up to 300 miles to events ,raced and drove back.I kept getting whipped by the trailered 11 and 12 second cars in Gas coupe/sedan class.I sold that car and decided to go with a cheap race only car ,hence my 64 Dart that i bought from Sam on here.It was running 11.90's - 12.00's when i got it and i did some cheap work and got it down to the 11.40's .I figured i would have a good chance of running the field in that class now.The guys that put it on saw that i was running faster than everyone else with a simular car ,and put me in the Comp class.Now im right back where i started with the other car,just in a higher class.I am a little frustrated sure ,but trying to give these guys another way to do it .Some thing like cubic inch / weight .I and others just dont want to bracket race at these events .If its not heads up then we have no insentive to try and go faster.Thats where i have my fun ,challenging myself each time out ,to go faster than the last time .I was just hoping to get some ideas on another way to do it ,not trying to run down what you may like to do ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcsXMV3vfg My Dart ,and im just getting started...
Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? #585266
01/17/10 10:23 PM
01/17/10 10:23 PM
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toledo, ohio
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Bracket racing is BOOOOOOORRRRRRING to watch. I don't care how hard it is, to the spectator, it's BOOOOOOORRRRRRING. To call it a form of racing is ridiculous. In every other form of motorsports, whoever gets to the finish line first, wins. In every other form of motorsports, you don't lose for going too fast. It really should be called Consistency Contest. It's about consistency, not racing.




heads up is boooorrrring, i can see fast cars in time trials, woooo he went a 7.50 and the guy he raced went an 8 flat, EXCITING...

people that think bracket racing is boring, (or even speaks for the entire spectator population), probably just dosent understand whats going on.
I've explained to people that didnt understand what was going on at the track, once they got the concept, they were really into it, did he break out? did he lift too soon, OH he ran dead on and got beat... so i dont agree with you saying its boring to spectators, maybe to the ones that show up wanting pro mod and get super pro.

I'm not speaking for all spectators like others, but to me and others i know, heads up is just a time trial where the announcer goes bat crap about the race.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: RonTheAnnouncer] #585267
01/17/10 10:26 PM
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toledo, ohio
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I just paid $450 for a car that I'll put a few hundred more into and go run 19s at the local tracks.




did you buy that out of toledo? slant 6? I think i may have looked at the same car awhile ago.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: The Shocker] #585268
01/17/10 10:26 PM
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Baton Rouge, La.
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Maybe i should try and explain this better.Heres the deal at the Nostalgia events that i go to the theme is to have racing like they would on a country road somewhere (but legal on a Dragstrip).If you were racing on a country road you would drop a flag and go ,and the first one to the stripe would win.The problem we have now is that there are too many different level of cars running ,ranging from 8's to 19's.We only have 5 classes .One being stock ,another being Gas coupe/sedan (which is about 80% of the cars),dragster ,flatheads and 6 cylinders ,and Comp Coupe.I use to have a 13.5 4 spd Falcon that i drove up to 300 miles to events ,raced and drove back.I kept getting whipped by the trailered 11 and 12 second cars in Gas coupe/sedan class.I sold that car and decided to go with a cheap race only car ,hence my 64 Dart that i bought from Sam on here.It was running 11.90's - 12.00's when i got it and i did some cheap work and got it down to the 11.40's .I figured i would have a good chance of running the field in that class now.The guys that put it on saw that i was running faster than everyone else with a simular car ,and put me in the Comp class.Now im right back where i started with the other car,just in a higher class.I am a little frustrated sure ,but trying to give these guys another way to do it .Some thing like cubic inch / weight .I and others just dont want to bracket race at these events .If its not heads up then we have no insentive to try and go faster.Thats where i have my fun ,challenging myself each time out ,to go faster than the last time .I was just hoping to get some ideas on another way to do it ,not trying to run down what you may like to do ...




Why don't you just spray the pants off it and you can keep up with the faster cars in the class. Or, you can always practice with a pocket porta-tree and go bracket racing.


76' Volare, 5.9 magnum w/Iron heads. New best 10.68 at 123 mph 1/4 mile.
Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? #585269
01/17/10 10:39 PM
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Bracket racing is BOOOOOOORRRRRRING to watch. I don't care how hard it is, to the spectator, it's BOOOOOOORRRRRRING. To call it a form of racing is ridiculous. In every other form of motorsports, whoever gets to the finish line first, wins. In every other form of motorsports, you don't lose for going too fast. It really should be called Consistency Contest. It's about consistency, not racing.


All this coming from a person who wasnt good at either heads up or bracket racing. You did the right thing and sold the car.

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: QuickDart 502] #585270
01/17/10 10:48 PM
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Well...I happen to love bracket racing...fast...it's still about racing...yes you have to cut a light...run your dial...and...drive the stripe...so easy a cave man could do it ...I've footbraked, box raced and driven a 4 speed GTX with no line lock or other "helping devices" to bracket race wins...it's a blast...heads up racing to win is for people with REALLY deep pocket books or resources not available to most of us...yes...I would heads up race in the ultimate heads up class if I had the money...Pro Stock...


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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: plasticfantastic] #585271
01/17/10 10:53 PM
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I just paid $450 for a car that I'll put a few hundred more into and go run 19s at the local tracks.




did you buy that out of toledo? slant 6? I think i may have looked at the same car awhile ago.



Nope, from Cleveland. It was taking up space in my friend's driveway, so it made it's way to me.


Ron H.
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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? #585272
01/18/10 01:02 AM
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Bracket racing is BOOOOOOORRRRRRING to watch. I don't care how hard it is, to the spectator, it's BOOOOOOORRRRRRING. To call it a form of racing is ridiculous. In every other form of motorsports, whoever gets to the finish line first, wins. In every other form of motorsports, you don't lose for going too fast. It really should be called Consistency Contest. It's about consistency, not racing.




Spoken like someone who doesn't race. Even though hitting your number is the name of the game, there's not a bracket racer out there that still isn't spending every extra dollar he has, and busting his knuckles on a regular basis to get his car to go as fast as possible. Racing is racing. index, bracket, heads up, class..... its all good!, and its all fun!


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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: StealthWedge67] #585273
01/18/10 04:21 AM
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This is why I try never to call S/ST S/G S/C T/S & T/D "Racing"..

I call it a "Competition"..

That should make you happy..

Anyways.. Competing in this boring "S/ST" Class has netted me 5 "Wallys".... Wanna See a pair?? They don't give them out for spectating and bad mouthing..Sorry..


Chris..

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #585274
01/18/10 06:45 AM
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Good to see a forward facing scoupe. lol. By the way, I guess nobody likes my green start idea, eh?

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #585275
01/18/10 07:25 AM
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This is why I try never to call S/ST S/G S/C T/S & T/D "Racing"..

I call it a "Competition"..

That should make you happy..

Anyways.. Competing in this boring "S/ST" Class has netted me 5 "Wallys".... Wanna See a pair?? They don't give them out for spectating and bad mouthing..Sorry..


Chris..




Chris.... is she your girlfriend



I like racing.... period... bracket, heads up, what ever
but lets face it, you better have a BIG wallet to
race heads up(which I dont have) so thats why I bracket
race. In bracket racing you can still run as fast as
you want but need to be consistent. I stepped up my
car so I wasnt always the first to leave(first red
looses)

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #585276
01/18/10 09:04 AM
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i like all dragracing and even if alot of people dont like watching bracket im the opposit think its exciting when watching some good racers run bracket since its so close

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #585277
01/18/10 10:54 AM
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Thats the only thing we have in this area...These guys around here are absolute sharks on the tree and driving the strip... To win on any given weekend at my local race tracks, you would pretty much need to cut double O'h lights and run dead on within a 3 number...Think Im kiddin

Shoot to even place in foot brake class these guys cut O-teen lights, and run dead on also..




No different around here Bob, but that's what makes it interesting...

Rickster

Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: rickstershemi] #585278
01/18/10 01:52 PM
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Experienced bracket racers make the best heads up racers anyway IMHO


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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: 10 o to go] #585279
01/18/10 02:48 PM
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Re: Who else doesnt like Bracket / Index racing ? [Re: Tig] #585280
01/18/10 02:50 PM
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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My ego and my bank account aren't big enough to be competitive in a true "heads up" class anymore.

Well, at least my bank account isn't...

Bracket racing is still fun for me, as infrequently as I participate. If it isn't fun, leave the car in the garage.

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