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1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner #58349 05/13/08 07:16 AM 05/13/08 07:16 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 148 S.W. Florida B blkbee6pack OP member
blkbee6pack OP member B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 148 S.W. Florida	Anyone have photos and what is the differance from OEM to repop., base and lid? Non fresh air

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: blkbee6pack] #58350 05/13/08 08:05 AM 05/13/08 08:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 74,974 U.S.S.A.	whats available new is directly from chrysler , always has been available so i wouldn't necessarily consider it a repop , differences though ???

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: blkbee6pack] #58351 05/13/08 08:24 AM 05/13/08 08:24 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Other than the "Made in Canada" and the pt.# stamping on the base,no difference.All done with the original tooling.

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner #58352 05/13/08 11:08 AM 05/13/08 11:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,783 Ontario, Canada mccannix master
mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,783 Ontario, Canada	Over 10 years ago when they came back out with the 3418717 6 pack aircleaner that was NS-1, they were produced with the original Fram tooling that was re-activated. These were pretty rough pieces especially the lids which had edges that would almost be considered jagged. I was told that tooling was retired to Versitube because it needed too much maintenance to continue. Dont know if it was refurbished and used again for the current offering but I do know there are differences in where the front shield is spotwelded on as compared to the originals. Also first run originals on all production cars were enamel right over bare steel with the Made in Canada and part number. The current ones are powder coated and as mentioned dont carry the stampings. No good old orange peel like the originals.

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner #58353 05/13/08 02:39 PM 05/13/08 02:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,764 near Port Huron, MI Paul master
Paul master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,764 near Port Huron, MI	Quote: Other than the "Made in Canada" and the pt.# stamping on the base,no difference.All done with the original tooling. Unless they were retooled again after 1971, the MP base has one very significant difference that sets it apart from an OEM part. The notch in the base.... original parts have a small notch on the front just to passenger side, the MP piece has an even larger notch towards the driver's side of the car. I assume so it can clear a small block upper radiator hose, despite having never been originally offered on a small block car.

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: blkbee6pack] #58354 05/13/08 03:50 PM 05/13/08 03:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx hemi68charger master
hemi68charger master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,827 Houston, Tx	If no one posts a pic of the two side-by-side, I'll take one... I have both at home......... Well, I did find this one here at work of my '70 v-code Charger R/T....... You'll notice the notch on the passenger side for the "clearance" for the distributor.. click on the attachment link for a bigger photo where it's clearer... 4425180-70_OEM_6bbl_base.jpg (394 downloads) Last edited by hemi68charger; 05/13/08 03:51 PM. Troy Houston Mopar Connection Club '69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: hemi68charger] #58355 05/13/08 08:04 PM 05/13/08 08:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI David Hakim super street
David Hakim super street Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 581 Detroit, MI	The current MP '70 Six Pack Air Cleaners no longer has the big notch on the baseplate (drivers side). Someone before me at MP had the bright idea to make this change for the five guys in the whole running A/C on a 440 6 BBL. We changed the tooling back to the O.E. 1970 spec in 2001.

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: David Hakim] #58356 05/14/08 02:57 AM 05/14/08 02:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,177 People's Republic of Kali 70runner super stock
70runner super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,177 People's Republic of Kali	Heres a reference pic of my NOS 440-6 base.

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: David Hakim] #58357 05/14/08 11:23 AM 05/14/08 11:23 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: The current MP '70 Six Pack Air Cleaners no longer has the big notch on the baseplate (drivers side). Someone before me at MP had the bright idea to make this change for the five guys in the whole running A/C on a 440 6 BBL. We changed the tooling back to the O.E. 1970 spec in 2001. Thank you! Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: 70runner] #58358 05/14/08 11:31 AM 05/14/08 11:31 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Hey, the base I bought from MP a year or two ago has NEITHER the A/C notch (which was obviously wrong) or the distributor notch.....I don't think my original has the distributor notch either.... '70 Ramcharger equipped 440-6... Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: DPelletier] #58359 05/14/08 12:54 PM 05/14/08 12:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,054 USA B b54406barrel master
b54406barrel master B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,054 USA	Quote: Hey, the base I bought from MP a year or two ago has NEITHER the A/C notch (which was obviously wrong) or the distributor notch.....I don't think my original has the distributor notch either.... '70 Ramcharger equipped 440-6... Dave I would have sworn I didn't either & agreed with you until I zoomed in on a picture of mine I happened to have on photobucket. There is a 'notch', there on the dist. side. I've only had that thing in my hands about a million times all these years & never noticed it. I'll definitely look at it next time I drive it!

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: b54406barrel] #58360 05/14/08 03:09 PM 05/14/08 03:09 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Hmmmm......I can hardly wait to get home and check my original. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: DPelletier] #58361 05/14/08 05:00 PM 05/14/08 05:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,783 Ontario, Canada mccannix master
mccannix master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,783 Ontario, Canada	b5440's picture shows the original style notch, and 70 runner shows an even better picture of it. It measures about 3.5 inches by 3/16 inch deep and is on all factory orignal run oval air cleaners, fresh-air and non... 383, 440-4v, 440-6 and Hemi.

Re: 1970 OEM 6pack air cleaner [Re: blkbee6pack] #58362 05/24/08 09:17 AM 05/24/08 09:17 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 148 S.W. Florida B blkbee6pack OP member
blkbee6pack OP member B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 148 S.W. Florida	Thanks everyone for the photos and measurments. It is better to buy the correct one the first time Anyone have a non-fresh air one for sale?

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