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4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 05:29 PM
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Racers This season I am hoping to move up a class at our local track. The class I raced in upto now used a .5 pro-tree. It took a whole season but I finally got the hang of it. The new class uses a .4 pro-tree. My question is do you think I can get my car to react fast enough? I have upgraded the engine to a 512 with a 262@.050 solid roller. Same 5000 stall,4.10,t-brake, with Cal-tracs. Last season I could cut a pretty good light but was red quite a few times (.008-.010) Will the mods over the winter make up the difference? Thanks Dave
Dave Stillie
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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Im SURE I wont red light!!!!(on a 4/10th tree) The question is will the CAR be able to react fast enough?
Dave Stillie
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Mega-Squirt EFI
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 05:58 PM
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 06:11 PM
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
 
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier. 
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
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Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 06:16 PM
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier.
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
 a .430 light down here will put you on the trailer 9 times out of ten.
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier.
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
a .430 light down here will put you on the trailer 9 times out of ten.
i dont doubt a minute it would. but the guys trailering me i bet arent racing 3350 pound leaf spring cars either..
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 06:21 PM
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier.
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
a .430 light down here will put you on the trailer 9 times out of ten.
i dont doubt a minute it would. but the guys trailering me i bet arent racing 3350 pound leaf spring cars either..
 where the heck you been Don? do you still have your car?
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 06:27 PM
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier.
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
a .430 light down here will put you on the trailer 9 times out of ten.
i dont doubt a minute it would. but the guys trailering me i bet arent racing 3350 pound leaf spring cars either..
where the heck you been Don? do you still have your car?
yes, still have it..tried to sell it for a couple of weeks back last fall, but all i got was about 20 people that wanted pictures of it, and not much else...now its getting close to racing season..so..... got tired of emailing pictures( or i should say my wife did, because she knows how to)..lol
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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 06:32 PM
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The car weighs 3200 with me in it. I launch on the two-step around 3000. I'm guessing that I'll have to raise the rpm at launch to at least 4000. The 512 should make a boat-load of torque.
Dave Stillie
'73 Swinger
5.7 Hemi, 88mm turbo, powerglide, cal-tracs & 8 3/4
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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01/15/10 06:35 PM
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The car weighs 3200 with me in it. I launch on the two-step around 3000. I'm guessing that I'll have to raise the rpm at launch to at least 4000. The 512 should make a boat-load of torque.
that will help..mine is quickest on the tree at about 4400 on the chip, but it wheelstands way to much at that rpm, i have it at 3400 currently
what are the weight rules, if any, in the class you will race in?...that will be a key to being competetive in your car
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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No weight rules. Deep staging is allowed but kind of frowned on, dont know why. Thanks for all the help!
Dave Stillie
'73 Swinger
5.7 Hemi, 88mm turbo, powerglide, cal-tracs & 8 3/4
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier.
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
a .430 light down here will put you on the trailer 9 times out of ten.
Tony, i'd like to see them trailer me with my heavy 65 Dodge & 65 plymouth Hemi belvedere. i got these cars reacting sick fast or maybe its my lightning fast reflexes
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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if it's real heavy I doubt it will react quick enough for a .4 protree.
Dont feed the troll(me)
to the original poster, my car is 3350 pounds with a similar ( stockish) suspension, and a good brake. I have done a lot of 400 tree racing..if i am really on my game, i can go .430's at night, and a little slower during the day.
the higher rpm you launch at will help, and staging as deeply as possible will as well. but lighter cars have a real big advantage, all else being equal. Its just a fact something lighter is going to start to move quicker, as compared to something heavier.
you wont ever see heavy cars in 8.90/9.90 racing for this and other reasons, where the .400 tree is used.
a .430 light down here will put you on the trailer 9 times out of ten.
Tony, i'd like to see them trailer me with my heavy 65 Dodge & 65 plymouth Hemi belvedere. i got these cars reacting sick fast or maybe its my lightning fast reflexes
come on down they race every weekend, how many races have you won? 
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Re: 4/10's Pro-Tree
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