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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: HardcoreB] #574141
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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: HardcoreB] #574142
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I am far from an expert on blowers, but have some basic understanding of them, having messed with one a bit.
If you put a head on that flows ten percent better, and show a large drop in boost, bring the boost back up to 12 lb and the differance should be roughly the same increase in total pressure brought back into the picture.
12 psi boost, plus atmospheric pressure would be 26.7 absolute psi. If you loose 2.67 psi on the head change, then increase the boost back to 12 psi, it might show a 100 hp increase. There are a lot of variables
i don't know about on this type of blower, so take it as a WAG.


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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: gregsdart] #574143
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I am far from an expert on blowers, but have some basic understanding of them, having messed with one a bit.
If you put a head on that flows ten percent better, and show a large drop in boost, bring the boost back up to 12 lb and the differance should be roughly the same increase in total pressure brought back into the picture.
12 psi boost, plus atmospheric pressure would be 26.7 absolute psi. If you loose 2.67 psi on the head change, then increase the boost back to 12 psi, it might show a 100 hp increase. There are a lot of variables
i don't know about on this type of blower, so take it as a WAG.



i agree.i am upgrading the heads to gain HP, reduce heat/restriction plus my 346 iron heads are at there limit for putting $$ into.

Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: blownzoom440] #574144
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its not just that increase in HP for me as i will be turning up the boost to about 1300HP now and then. about 16 psi i would guess.

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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: blownzoom440] #574145
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its not just that increase in HP for me as i will be turning up the boost to about 1300HP now and then. about 16 psi i would guess.




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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: Von] #574146
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I run a set of Koffels ported B1/BS heads with the B1 Intake. The ports are bigger than the MW ports. The B1 intake is cut big time.
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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: blownzoom440] #574147
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i have harland sharp that will work but i need to change the intake rocker to the correct offset and HS sells those.sorry you had problems with the springs,valves...




Back in the 90s board member MRMOPAR pretty much ran the combo you are looking at. IIRC it was a .040 stock stroke 440 with Pro Gram Main Caps, a Callies Crank, Ferea Rods, Crower 280R roller with a GMC 6-71 on a Dyers intake with a pair of 850s from the supercharger store (?) and the B1BS heads. I don't believe that the heads were ported at all - just OOTB, and I am not convinced that they did all that much over the iron heads they replaced. In other words, I don't think I would bother without porting them.

I believe he still has a set of the special offset B1BS Harland Sharp rockers that he would be willing to unload. Try sending him a PM.

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Re: head swap to B1 BS HP gain? [Re: Bill_T] #574148
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interesting! thanks.
mine will be made to flow as stated in the 330 range so it will be better than the 280 cfm i had from the iron heads. i am sure the new rockers have a better baring now from then.i will check.

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