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Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? #569948 01/02/10 02:22 PM 01/02/10 02:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock
Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee	While removing my steering box for R&R, I disconnected the steering coupling. No problem in the process. When dismantling the coupler I discovered that one of the shoes inside the coupler was broken. All the other parts, including the coupler itself, seem fine (photo attached). I do have a coupling rebuild kit, so all the guts of the coupler will be replaced. A little history: The car, '68 RR was originally a manual steering car. One of the previous owners converted it to power steering so I know the coupling was off at some point in the cars life. What may have caused this? I want to make sure this doesn't happen again. Thanks Frank Remember - 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 rights make a left!

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569949 01/02/10 02:47 PM 01/02/10 02:47 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies	never saw that before. maybe it was dropped and had a small fracture on it before it was installed and it let go It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: aarcuda] #569950 01/02/10 04:15 PM 01/02/10 04:15 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	If the pieces in there were positioned correctly which I'm sure they were as you'd have a ton of play if you had them sideways I'd say just a (very rare) defect in the metallurgy. I'd grab a new kit (only $10-12 or so) & I think you'll be fine but I would give everything inside the coupler a good visual inspection. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569951 01/02/10 04:25 PM 01/02/10 04:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476 3 340dart4spd Parts Problem
340dart4spd Parts Problem 3 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476	Quote: While removing my steering box for R&R, I disconnected the steering coupling. No problem in the process. When dismantling the coupler I discovered that one of the shoes inside the coupler was broken. All the other parts, including the coupler itself, seem fine (photo attached). I do have a coupling rebuild kit, so all the guts of the coupler will be replaced. A little history: The car, '68 RR was originally a manual steering car. One of the previous owners converted it to power steering so I know the coupling was off at some point in the cars life. What may have caused this? I want to make sure this doesn't happen again. Thanks Frank Is it possibl it was put in backwards? 5706138-strclm2.JPG (43 downloads)

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: 340dart4spd ] #569952 01/02/10 05:52 PM 01/02/10 05:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock
Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee	Quote: Is it possible it was put in backwards? It could have been. When I pulled the coupler off of the steering shaft the broken pieces fell to the floor. The other shoe stayed on the shaft due to the grease around it. Never thought about checking the original orientation since when the one side fell I didn't know it was broken. I doubt it was in wrong but it's possible. When looking at the broken shoe it's as though it was a cold break in the metal. Don't know if it was a stress break or not. Frank Last edited by Chi_Town_Runner; 01/02/10 06:49 PM. Remember - 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 rights make a left!

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569953 01/02/10 10:05 PM 01/02/10 10:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock
Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee	A for me Anybody from the night shift have any ideas? Frank Remember - 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 rights make a left!

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569954 01/02/10 10:33 PM 01/02/10 10:33 PM
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NITROUSN I Live Here N Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 18,406 UPPER MICHIGAN, MARQUETTE COUN...	Why worry over something no one can give you the for sure answer on. No doubt someone boned up at some time. Put it togeather right and you will have no worries.

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569955 01/02/10 10:34 PM 01/02/10 10:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA rrunner master
rrunner master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA	Hey Frank, Never tried to install them backwards, don't think it's possible. Also by the wear marks it appears it was installed the correct way. Can't say I have ever pulled one out cracked like that, even the ones that are installed sideways.

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: rrunner] #569956 01/02/10 10:50 PM 01/02/10 10:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock
Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee	I just want to make sure I don't make the same mistake (if there was one) like the last guy. I'm not worried about putting it back together correctly, I know I can do that. I just wanted to know if someone may of had another reason this could have happened that I was not aware of. Thanks for the input guys. Frank Remember - 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 rights make a left!

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: rrunner] #569957 01/02/10 10:55 PM 01/02/10 10:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476 3 340dart4spd Parts Problem
340dart4spd Parts Problem 3 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,476	Quote: Hey Frank, Never tried to install them backwards, don't think it's possible. Also by the wear marks it appears it was installed the correct way. Can't say I have ever pulled one out cracked like that, even the ones that are installed sideways. Trust me it will go in backwards.. don't ask me how I know.... that was 25 years ago...LOL

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569958 01/02/10 10:56 PM 01/02/10 10:56 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA rrunner master
rrunner master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA	The only thing I would think to check is to make sure your steering shaft isn't bent and possibly the box mounting. I know you are replacing the box and got a new shoe kit so as long as the shaft and mounting surface are good you should be good to go.

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: rrunner] #569959 01/02/10 11:03 PM 01/02/10 11:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock
Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee	10-4 Thanks Frank Remember - 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 rights make a left!

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569960 01/03/10 12:58 AM 01/03/10 12:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,788 Hamilton, Ontario Canada Magnum master
Magnum master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,788 Hamilton, Ontario Canada	Quote: One of the previous owners converted it to power steering I do have faith in the installed backwards theory but since you are digging. Is the steering shaft from the conversion too long and bottoming the coupler out? 69 Super Bee, 93 Mustang LX, 04 Allure Super

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Magnum] #569961 01/03/10 02:29 AM 01/03/10 02:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock
Chi_Town_Runner OP super stock Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,101 Retired now in Tennessee	Quote: Is the steering shaft from the conversion too long and bottoming the coupler out? Good Point. I don't know. The steering box is out and I am waiting for my new one. From reading the FSM it appears that you adjust the depth of the shaft in the coupler after you assemble and monunt it to the box. Once you adjust the depth you secure the steering column, unless I'm reading something wrong. I just skimmed over the reassembly section since I'm not quite there yet, but it's something I'm gonna check out. You may be onto something. Thanks for the insight. Frank Remember - 2 wrongs don't make a right - but 3 rights make a left!

Re: Why did the shoe in my Steering Coupler break? [Re: Chi_Town_Runner] #569962 01/03/10 10:00 AM 01/03/10 10:00 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa B buildanother I Live Here
buildanother I Live Here B Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 11,543 chicagoland,usa	No help here, as I've never seen a break like that, and I've owned 10 different daily driven 78-90 4x4 full-size dodges in 25 years w/out borgesin. Rust belt too.

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