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440 Source kit update part 1 #569478 01/02/10 10:32 AM 01/02/10 10:32 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing OP master
B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Varification of kit-1 [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569479 01/02/10 10:36 AM 01/02/10 10:36 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Varification-2 [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569480 01/02/10 10:37 AM 01/02/10 10:37 AM
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Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569481 01/02/10 10:38 AM 01/02/10 10:38 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing OP master
B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Flange face and radius,rough and unequal. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569482 01/02/10 10:41 AM 01/02/10 10:41 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Flange-2 [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569483 01/02/10 10:45 AM 01/02/10 10:45 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Flange-3 Rough and uneven thickness and concentric. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569484 01/02/10 10:47 AM 01/02/10 10:47 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Unfinished rod journal.-1 [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569485 01/02/10 10:49 AM 01/02/10 10:49 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Rod journal-2 [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569486 01/02/10 10:52 AM 01/02/10 10:52 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Finished rod journals. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569487 01/02/10 10:53 AM 01/02/10 10:53 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	URL=http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2377380840103493898JUOAFz][/URL] Radius interference on main bearing-1 [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569488 01/02/10 10:55 AM 01/02/10 10:55 AM
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B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Radius interference,main bearing-2 Last edited by B G Racing; 01/02/10 10:57 AM. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569489 01/02/10 11:05 AM 01/02/10 11:05 AM
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moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	Mopar Performance

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: moparniac] #569490 01/02/10 11:09 AM 01/02/10 11:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada brads70 super stock
brads70 super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569491 01/02/10 11:11 AM 01/02/10 11:11 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,853 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,853 Ontario, Canada	I'm guessing the unfinished rod journals are non critical since these are the lightening holes, correct? There'll be no finishing them now since the thing's already balanced.

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569492 01/02/10 11:13 AM 01/02/10 11:13 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Can these problems be addressed and how much to fix it? Some of us folllowing this thread know very little about what you are pointing out. 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569493 01/02/10 11:34 AM 01/02/10 11:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing OP master
B G Racing OP master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Sorry for some of the fuzzy pictures.We will start with the crank and the next series will be the rods and pistons.The crank miked quite well with clearences on the highside with a noticable taper on most journals but within spec.The radius's were quite large and interfered on all mains,most on front and rear both.The crank runout was remarkable good till we got to the number one main and snout which exceeded our acceptable runout.We checked it both in the block and on the lathe.The condition of the unfinished rod journal and the rear flange were small concerns and can be corrected as well as the radius's.The crank was balanced to 2300 grams as seen on the stamping.Our rotating assembly bobweight totaled 2169 grams.Until we spin the crank we will not know if the correction was made or not.We will be correcting the crank and will give any further finds and soon give our assesment of the rest of the assembly.Remember this is for imformation and I'am sure that this may not be typical of all kits.Some of these issues were not seen on previous kits and this was an early kit.Please do not use this post for a bashing party,just use it to gain knowledge as to what to be watchful for.We can learn together for improving our sport.I,am communicating with Brandon and may use more of his products in the future if requested buy budget minded racers.If we can keep this post on a informational and learning experience I will continue,if it turns to bashing I will stop.It is not my intent to disrespect anyone or any products,just to be helpful.With the information provided in this and other builds we all can understand the different levels and cost to make the best decisions for our projects.We have recorded all the measurements and will share any and all info,any questions can be answered in PMs,we will be try and specific and general on the site.Respectfully Bob [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569494 01/02/10 11:41 AM 01/02/10 11:41 AM
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moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	Quote: my intent to disrespect anyone or any products,just to be helpful.With the information provided in this and other builds we all can understand the different levels and cost to make the best decisions for our projects. Im sure this will be helpful to the budget minded mopar world Mopar Performance

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569495 01/02/10 12:36 PM 01/02/10 12:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,406 Diego-Town, CA Diego_Ted master
Diego_Ted master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,406 Diego-Town, CA	Quote: Remember this is for imformation and I'am sure that this may not be typical of all kits.Some of these issues were not seen on previous kits and "(((this was an early kit.)))"Please do not use this post for a bashing party,just use it to gain knowledge as to what to be watchful for.We can learn together for improving our sport.Respectfully Bob The quoted phrase is my only concern because we do not have a current kit being evaluated and there is no way to know how many of these issues have been resolved in current production. And people only see what they want and may attribute any issues found to current production. Just my Diego

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: Diego_Ted] #569496 01/02/10 12:48 PM 01/02/10 12:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,041 michigan woods imfixinmopars426 master
imfixinmopars426 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,041 michigan woods	i think this is a great idea,to let us know whay to look for,and to improve the product! two birds with one stone! thanks!!

Re: 440 Source kit update part 1 [Re: B G Racing] #569497 01/02/10 12:50 PM 01/02/10 12:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,290 New Kent, Va. bobbyb pro stock
bobbyb pro stock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,290 New Kent, Va.	Thanks B G Racing! I'm getting ready to do a stroker motor (400-451) and welcome any help and info. I'm also leaning towards getting my kit from 440 Source. Thanks again. 2004 Dodge Rumble Bee 5.7 Hemi 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner

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