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Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: BillyShope] #553180
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What happened to Quicktree? Awfully fast to tell me, BG and Mike, that he does not agree with how we do it, but then an original "Ramcharger", Billy Shope backs us up, and all I hear is crickets

Monte

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Monte_Smith] #553181
12/23/09 01:02 PM
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We are in New Orleans




last sited on the west end of Bourbon street, Fred posted a pic.......

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Monte_Smith] #553182
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What happened to Quicktree? Awfully fast to tell me, BG and Mike, that he does not agree with how we do it, but then an original "Ramcharger", Billy Shope backs us up, and all I hear is crickets

Monte




we are now in Houston Texas I am not surprised by Billy's comment. you must not be reading again thats was the train of thought back in the day. since then new ideas and technolgy has popped up lighten uo Monte life is to short...

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Monte_Smith] #553183
12/23/09 07:18 PM
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What happened to Quicktree? Awfully fast to tell me, BG and Mike, that he does not agree with how we do it, but then an original "Ramcharger", Billy Shope backs us up, and all I hear is crickets

Monte








Not Quicktree, But My interpretation was, is that he was Backing up Quickreets method.


Let me share My Biased interpretation


The Old "Production" cars put Billions of miles on with Pinion angles being incorrect and all over the place.

Like for instance if one would measure pinion angle off the Driveshaft alone.

Sure, There would be some joint occilation but It wouldnt be the End of the World


But on the "Race" Ram Charger, Every effort was made to make and,

I Quote. "The Crankshaft centerline and Pinion centerline collinear!

That Effort included More then Just measuring the pinion angle off the drive shaft from my perspective.


Monte, I already know you emphaticly stated that the a perfectly inline driveline is the best setup for a race car.

I think we all know and want the same things for our drivelines We are all just getting there in different ways.

For me the crank centerline should always be considered and not disreguarded.



If I misinterpreted you Mr Shope through my Biased eyes. Please feel free to straighten me out. mike

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Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Sport440] #553184
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What happened to Quicktree? Awfully fast to tell me, BG and Mike, that he does not agree with how we do it, but then an original "Ramcharger", Billy Shope backs us up, and all I hear is crickets

Monte








Not Quicktree, But My interpretation was, is that he was Backing up Quickreets method.


Let me share My Biased interpretation


The Old "Production" cars put Billions of miles on with Pinion angles being incorrect and all over the place.

Like for instance if one would measure pinion angle off the Driveshaft alone.

Sure, There would be some joint occilation but It wouldnt be the End of the World


But on the "Race" Ram Charger, Every effort was made to make and,

I Quote. "The Crankshaft centerline and Pinion centerline collinear!

That Effort included More then Just measuring the pinion angle off the drive shaft from my perspective.


Monte, I already know you emphaticly stated that the a perfectly inline driveline is the best setup for a race car.

I think we all know and want the same things for our drivelines We are all just getting there in different ways.

For me the crank centerline should always be considered and not disreguarded.



If I misinterpreted you Mr Shope through my Biased eyes. Please feel free to straighten me out. mike




I thought the same thing but still not sure

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Quicktree] #553185
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I was actually just messing with Tony, because at the end of the day, I just really don't care and am really just irritated at myself, for even getting drawn in to this meaningless discussion again. So, no, I don't care to try and explain anything....would it matter? I highly doubt it, so everyone have a nice holiday season

Monte

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Monte_Smith] #553186
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I was actually just messing with Tony, because at the end of the day, I just really don't care and am really just irritated at myself, for even getting drawn in to this meaningless discussion again. So, no, I don't care to try and explain anything....would it matter? I highly doubt it, so everyone have a nice holiday season

Monte




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Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Monte_Smith] #553187
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I was actually just messing with Tony, because at the end of the day, I just really don't care and am really just irritated at myself, for even getting drawn in to this meaningless discussion again. So, no, I don't care to try and explain anything....would it matter? I highly doubt it, so everyone have a nice holiday season

Monte





Hey ,Im just a good debater, so it is likely ,Im probably wrong.


But its Christmas,reguardless who is right or wrong. Happy Hollidays and Merry Christmas. mike

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Sport440] #553188
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I was wrong once,then I found that I was actually right,so I guess I was right I was wrong once.Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

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after you guys figure this out would you please post your theories on tne following subject
WHICH CAME FIRST THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG



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Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: Quicktree] #553192
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So, what's the right way?

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So, what's the right way?



depends on who you ask

Re: Dave Morgan chassis seminar a success [Re: barracudabob] #553194
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So, what's the right way?




the right way is what works for your car. IMO leaf spring cars are the hardest.

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