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Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: 68Cbarge] #54449
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bigdad i have to tell you that your car is perfect

I would LOVE to see some more pictures.


Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: 68Cbarge] #54450
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I have to disagree. It ain't worth every minute of it. It was the most miserable automotive undertaking I've ever experienced. I would rather be dead than have a job doing that every day. That tar doesn't just soften..IT IGNITES and flys everywhere when you scrape it off. That hot tar continues to be on fire even when it's stuck to your skin. I for one would never do it again for any reason. It's an experience I'll never forget.

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Wurth sells a tool that grinds off the undercoating , its like spinning teeth that chews off the undercoating.
Might not reach in all the cracks but saves a lot of time scrapping.

My body man told me he paid a little over $200.00 for his tool. He uses all the time in his shop to remove undercoating inside doors, floors, etc on his clients vehicles, saves him a lot of time scrapping

Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: JSSuperbee] #54452
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I've done two cars a 1970 Cuda and 1970 Roadrunner. It took a long time, but I only did it an hour a day or so; all I could stand. All I used was a scraper and a few worn old flat bladed screwdrivers. The undercoating was so dry it basically just scraped right off. Probably one of the best improvements I've done to these cars. Now I don't mind working under them at all, and it is very easy to maintain; just wipe it down every now and then. BC/CC paint holds up just fine.

Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: mxbeep] #54453
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Now ya tell me.....


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Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: JSSuperbee] #54454
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JSsuperbee,I hated doing the work,but the end result was well worth it.
I did leave what was still in good shape and freshened it up.The dry,chipped stuff I removed.
My car will be a driver so not many will crawl up under to see how well I do in judged/points shows.
At least I know in my mind there is no rot underneath..
Plus it's a C so I have more area to recover..LOL!


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Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: 68Cbarge] #54455
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IMO it sounds like you're better off just scraping off what's loose/flaking off, treating the rust with whatever rust product you were planning on doing, then re-doing the entire undercoating, applying fresh stuff over top of the original undercoating that was still in good shape.

Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #54456
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I read some where that the undercoating on early cars might contain asbestos. I don't know for sure but be careful. Also Kerosene or Diesel fuel might soften it somewhat.

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IMO it sounds like you're better off just scraping off what's loose/flaking off, treating the rust with whatever rust product you were planning on doing, then re-doing the entire undercoating, applying fresh stuff over top of the original undercoating that was still in good shape.




I'm probably going to do this.

Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: bigdad] #54458
03/01/08 11:37 PM
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Well .. I've done a couple cars and,, There is no easy method

I suppose the 64 took me 150 total hours to make perfectly clean.

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150 hrs?

There's a faster way, no fire, no burns and you don't breath any dust. A very hot steam cleaner...
I can do the bottem in about 3 1/2 hours.No scrape marks or gouges anywhere. I used a steam pressure washer. I did it in one afternoon and was done with it.



It's still wet in these pictures, those are water droplets hanging off the car.





Big Mike, Here's a tip for ya. That aluminun tank in the picture below, has reg 87 oct gasoline in it. It's a pressurized tank with spray wand. (I used it for years at the track to clean parts) I spray the heavy off first with the presure washer and then spray it with gasoline. It softens the road tar and under coating and speeds things up. I'll spray it wait two minutes or so and then blast it off.
I've been cleaning heavy duty trucks for years with these type of pressure washers. Go rent one from a pressure washer place or a tool rental.
I used about two gallons of gas doing the job. You would think the run off would kill the grass but it does'nt. I think most of it evaporates before getting to the grass, it's very hot and steamy to the point where you can't really see to good, so most everything evaporates quickly.
If diesel fuel or kerosene were used it would be a nasty oilly mess when done and would get to the grass. My

Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: 68Cbarge] #54459
03/01/08 11:54 PM
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I've been doing this for weekends now..man what a pain, only i didn't have factory undercoat, i had this thick, greasy, sticky tar like garbage someone sprayed in every seam ever made(74 Challenger) and i have wire wheels of different sorta, scrappers, flat head screwdrivers, wire brushes,
What i did was take the parts-cleaner fluid that i was going to dispose, put it in a spray bottle, and sprayed it all over the underside of car on stands.. Most of it soaked in after a few days, got soft and scrapped off, some areas were still tight, theres where the tools come in, I have the leafs/axle out right now.. and doing all that, i swear those truck extentions are a nightmare, the body grooves and pinche welds and tight spaces...ugh..after big work, hit it with brake cleaner ( a few cans) then let it dry..then degreaser... then water..soak it..and wash it off.
wipe what you can, dry it out and hit with whatever, por15, zero rust..etc


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Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: 68Cbarge] #54460
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Like everybody else,I used a propane torch,scraper,hammer & chisel,wire wheel brush,etc.Lots of elbow grease.
Very time consuming.But worth every minute of it.








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Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: Slim Smitty] #54461
03/02/08 11:13 AM
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I recently did 6T6cuda's car same way, maybe he has some pictures.
Here's my 71 car that I did a couple years ago. Same deal, one afternoon and it's done. This is the gold 71 RT in my sig picture. Check out my current project: 74 challenger rebuid pictures





Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: Challenger 1] #54462
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I only romoved it where I had to, but my car was pretty rust free. Paint stripper works good, and is a lot less work too. (Use it outside!) Hit it with an old wire brush as it is working, a few times. Then use a putty kife. After all the metal work is done, I paint it and re-udercoat it with 3M body shutz and a shutz gun. The stuff dries hard, like the original. It doesn't have exactly the same texture (big deal) but I know it will last, and I won't have to worry about it comng off.

Re: Removing undercoating? #54463
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I used the torch and scraper method a few hours at a time for what seemed like months. Paint thinner does remove the residue.

I just saw a product in the Eastwood catalog that claims to be a spray on then scrap it off. I don't know if it works but may be worth a try.

Re: Removing undercoating? #54464
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Had "dealer installed" undercoating covering most of the under hood area on my 71 Demon.I used many rags applied with lots of mineral spirits-old tooth brushes for tight areas and lots and lots of elbo grease . Good luck!

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Paint stripper works good, and is a lot less work too. (Use it outside!) Hit it with an old wire brush as it is working, a few times. Then use a putty kife.




This is the way to do it then just wipe it down with laquer thinner....Removed quite a bit this way and it goes pretty quick...In your case make sure you wear protective clothing and eye wear cause that stuff does burn...

Re: Removing undercoating? [Re: QuickBpBp] #54466
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I had luck with just a heat gun. The heat gun and or propane torch should work.

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before torch and putty knife,wire wheel,sandpaper, thinner, etc.

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