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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: turbododgepirate] #54264
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Your hub to wheel lip will be around 14-16 inches than is my guess. I ran 205s and my tire was above the lip

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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 3XCHARM] #54265
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I tried pocketed LCAs with my chislholm 2 inch dropped springs and it was a no-go. there was not enough spring to compress inside the LCA and frame spring pockets. i have dropped dakota spindles and i think i will run pocketed LCAs and the spindles on my 92 with new stock height springs. should drop about four inches which is where i want it to be. jp in the land of oz!

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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: funkyjbp] #54266
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I just need to get standard d100 calipers correct? I know my d200s are different than the d100s

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54267
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My standard d100 calipers fit, but I had to grind about 1/8" off the mounting bracket to make it fit right. I have a crappy old belt driven bench grinder, and it took forever.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54268
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Awesome work! Im going to start collecting parts tonight for my 76 D200. Ill be incorporating them into my existing airride suspension. Has anyone went low enough that they have had to pie cut the upper control arm and roll the upper ball joint for better angle?




dont think thats necessary unless you were running huge rims/tires. only thing i did to my truck was cut 1.5 coils out the front and the strut rod mounts are only bout 5" off the ground. with proboably just bags you could lay these things out, deff no probs if you used bags and spindles. another possible issue is the pitman(?) arm on my truck is only about 1/2" away from strut rod now. the rear will reguire c-notch though i believe. still need to get tires/rims for mine though, and maybe try to go lower in the rear. bags in the future


Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: turbododgepirate] #54269
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A picture of the suspension with a 96 dakota drop spindle and 2" lowering springs from Mid America Customs. We are going to relocate the outer tie rod end to the top of the spindle arm for better suspension geometry.







But if you put it in from the top, then you raise the tie rod and create bumpsteer---no?

I have the spindles on a 96 dakota (about 4 years now) and the tie rod ends are raised flat across and it has some pretty bad at, times bump steer. Most times it is liveable though. If i could find a way to lower the tie rod arms back down, i would in a second to cure the problem.

I have the same spindles sitting here waiting to go on my '85 d150. Unfortunatly, it also is going to need new everything else in the front suspension and i am in the middle of a engine build for it. But i will be installing these when i get the chance compliments of the awesome info in this thread.


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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: dmopar74] #54270
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My front crossmember is 3.5 inches off ground right now when the truck is deflated. When I add the 2" spindles it will be a huge help but I would really like to get all 3.5 inched out at once. It currently bottoms the pitman arm and idler arm onto the strut rod. and the upper balljoints are definatly hateing life that low.

Tell me if Im nuts here. Im thinking I can build a 2.5" Tall block to relocate the strut rod to the bottom of the control arm using longer bolts. And I can pie cut my upper control arms for better balljoint angle. hopefully with that and the dakota spindles I will be able to get it all the way onto ground. and stil run a 28" tall tire.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54271
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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 76dodgeboy] #54272
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Whin Im buying brakes for the dakota spindles whats the downside to buying dakota rotors and calipers?

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54273
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The only thing I founf diff was the Dak is a few thousands bigger

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54274
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My front crossmember is 3.5 inches off ground right now when the truck is deflated. When I add the 2" spindles it will be a huge help but I would really like to get all 3.5 inched out at once. It currently bottoms the pitman arm and idler arm onto the strut rod. and the upper balljoints are definatly hateing life that low.

Tell me if Im nuts here. Im thinking I can build a 2.5" Tall block to relocate the strut rod to the bottom of the control arm using longer bolts. And I can pie cut my upper control arms for better balljoint angle. hopefully with that and the dakota spindles I will be able to get it all the way onto ground. and stil run a 28" tall tire.



i too have thought about relocating the strut rod too the bottom, would just about put it back into its stock position. i think pie cutting the arms would be fine as long as you brace em well. would you do the lower arms too?

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: dmopar74] #54275
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I went ahead and ordered a set of new upper and lower control arms last night. Im going to pie cut and possible extend the uppers. The lowers I will box in and reinforce so I can mount the strut rod to the bottom. My lower bj angle doesnt look to bad but i will inspect it once i get the strutrod flipped and the uppers built. I will start a new thread on the truck here soon.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54276
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Are you wanting to move the strutrods to clear the Idler arm. If so why not just moving the idler up instead and maybe flip the pitman arm if possible.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: 76dodgeboy] #54277
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Are you wanting to move the strutrods to clear the Idler arm. If so why not just moving the idler up instead and maybe flip the pitman arm if possible.





The strut odd actually hits directly on the shaft of the steering box not the arm itself. After spending a few hours staring at it the easier job will be lowering the strut rod to the bottom of the control arm

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: BIGMIKE@RIDETECH] #54278
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I know this an old thread, but i thought i1d add my For those with an 80 something truck: I have an 84 D150. Using Advanced Auto Parts web sites I have come to the following conclusion: For the 76 New Yorker rotors: the part number is identical to the 84 D150 rotors. The 79 B100 tie rod ends are identical to the 84 D150. The 84 D150 ball joints all identical to the Dakota ball joints. in 85 the rotor changed, so you would need the rotors, but if you have an 84 to 79, all you need is the spindles and the c-body tie rod sleeves!! I will be posting pics as soon as i get my install done Thanks to all who provided info on this topic!! Best thread ever!!

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a sticky maybe?


Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: scratchnfotraction] #54280
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Okay, I have been loving and studying this thread like crazy. I have an 83 2wd Ramcharger that is getting a set of 91-96 dropped spindles. I put new energy suspension urethane bushings in the upper control arm and cant get them to go back on. I squeezed everything together with my vice. Is that not enough? Do I need to use a press? What's the trick, if any? I am doing the spindles and some cut 3/4 ton coils. If It sucks I will try something else.

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: Mopargnome] #54281
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I got the uppers in and its on the ground. I did some studying and found I need the 70's truck inner tie rod end. They are longer than the 83 inner. My 83 rotors bolted on no problem. I think I'm going to cut another half coil out. I also noticed that I might need new bolts (dakota ones?) for the calipers. Fun, fun!

Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: Mopargnome] #54282
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Ok, I got my truck so that I can move it but I still have a little problem. I ordered 73 D-100 inner tie rod ends because they are longer than my stock 83 inner tie rods. The issue that I have now is that the new inners do not fit the original drag link. Was there something in this post I missed? Can I put a new drag link on it from an older truck? And would that new drag link fit the pitman arm and idler arm thats on the truck now? Here is a pic of it as it sits now. I still got a little more tweaking for the rear. I cant wait to drive this thing!

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Re: Dakota spindles on 73 clubcab done (almost) [Re: Mopargnome] #54283
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Looks SWEET makes me wish I would have kept my 92. I plan to do the dak spindles eventually. I dont remeber reading about it not fitting dl

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