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Small block head porting templates? #53804
02/13/08 06:10 PM
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I know there are templates available for big block heads, but are there any for the small block? I want to do some porting on my 360 heads, but have never done it before.

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: DustyChicken] #53805
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I asked this a couple months ago and it was a definate no from everybody. Sorry.

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: DustyChicken] #53806
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I still have a set of the now discontinued magnum porting templates

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: RokketRide] #53807
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I still have a set of the now discontinued magnum porting templates




Those, the later swirl port heads, and W series are the only small block templates made. I've never seen or heard of templates for the regualr LA series heads. I believe Mopar quit producing all of the ones they did make several years ago.

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: TC@HP2] #53808
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Dont know why, the results were outstanding. IMHO

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: RokketRide] #53809
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Your answer is the exact reason they stopped. They were shooting themselves in the foot financially (and I predict Edelbrock will never sell templates for the same reason. If anyone were to, it would be Summit or something). MP sells hp heads that they have developed ($$$), and they want people to buy heads to help them recover their investment (and heads probably have a higher profit margin anyways). They decided they probably didn't want someone buying a $40 template and DIY, when they could sell you a $400 set of heads instead.


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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: GO_Fish] #53810
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...They decided they probably didn't want someone buying a $40 template and DIY, when they could sell you a $2400 set of heads instead.




Fixed that for you...

Clair

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: Clair_Davis] #53811
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LOL, I thought my $400 may have been a little low!

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: RokketRide] #53812
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Care to share those templates with a fellow Mopar fan. Come on Buddy! Help a fella out!

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: GO_Fish] #53813
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MP's heads were definitely cheaper if you got them bare/unmachined, but I sure don't think it was the cheap templates that kept the heads from flying off the shelf...

Clair

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: dmerc] #53814
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Care to share those templates with a fellow Mopar fan. Come on Buddy! Help a fella out!




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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: moparmandjh] #53815
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somebody way back said that mp had put the wrong(or wrong sized)templates in the magnum template pkg & that's why they were disco'd but if you got good results maybe that wasn't the case

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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: RapidRobert] #53816
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somebody way back said that mp had put the wrong(or wrong sized)templates in the magnum template pkg & that's why they were disco'd but if you got good results maybe that wasn't the case




The Mag templates themselves are fine. It was the paper instructions that came with them that were LOADED with errors and hard to follow.


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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: Clair_Davis] #53817
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MP's heads were definitely cheaper if you got them bare/unmachined, but I sure don't think it was the cheap templates that kept the heads from flying off the shelf...

Clair


I agree 100% but the bare heads left alot to be done as well.
and were so ruff.........

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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: GO_Fish] #53818
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Quote:

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somebody way back said that mp had put the wrong(or wrong sized)templates in the magnum template pkg & that's why they were disco'd but if you got good results maybe that wasn't the case




The Mag templates themselves are fine. It was the paper instructions that came with them that were LOADED with errors and hard to follow.


that settles it,Rockett you need to come off of em


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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: RapidRobert] #53819
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I'll see what I can do about duplicating them. Maybe they will make enough of a transfer on a copy machine and everyone can make a set on their own.

I even have the original instructions. This is MP# P4876413

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: RokketRide] #53820
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Rockett that would be greatly appreciated. I will run that # & see if there's any chance the locater can find a set. I always wonder where stuff dissapears to when at one time they were everywhere & later on down the line all gone.


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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: DustyChicken] #53821
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I know there are templates available for big block heads, but are there any for the small block? I want to do some porting on my 360 heads, but have never done it before.




I just found the set I used on my 360 "LA" series heads about 8 or 9 years ago & are MP P4876412 "Swirl Port Heads"

PM me if anyone wants a photocopy of the instructions & templates.

Man that was alot of work.

Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: davesdartgt] #53822
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I know there are templates available for big block heads, but are there any for the small block? I want to do some porting on my 360 heads, but have never done it before.




I just found the set I used on my 360 "LA" series heads about 8 or 9 years ago & are MP P4876412 "Swirl Port Heads"




I suspect those templates were for the pre-Magnum "308" heads, and are not meant for use on the earlier LA castings. The MP A engine book lists P4876412 as "360 cast iron cylinder head porting template" which is kind of a vague discription making it sound like it is good for all 360 heads. I don't think that is true.


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Re: Small block head porting templates? [Re: GO_Fish] #53823
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It would be a great service to other Mopar owners if copies of those discontinued intake port templates were posted on Moparts.

I would suggest that they be photocopied onto paper with grid lines so that those of us downloading them can copy them into Microsoft 'Paint' and then enlarge or reduce them so that the scale is correct. The green grid line paper like engineering students use.

I would be willing to snail mail some money to help with expenses doing this

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