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Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: Twostick] #537425
11/29/09 09:51 PM
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i have been worried about hard water in rads for a long time so this was the pre mixed stuff. so if that was the problem it was from the prestone factory.

when we found the problem dodgefarmer here repaired and surfaced them, they went on a new 383 and this time i bought distilled water and non mixed antifreeze and went 50/50 mix. no tap water anywhere.

hopefully problem is solved? i ran straight tap water in my blower motor with eddies and never had this issue.

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: chrisf] #537426
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Above, you said "this is not 100% 440sources fault. its mine for running both grounds on the heads and not the block" So, is it the Anti Freeze mix or ground placement? Or both?
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i have been worried about hard water in rads for a long time so this was the pre mixed stuff. so if that was the problem it was from the prestone factory.

when we found the problem dodgefarmer here repaired and surfaced them, they went on a new 383 and this time i bought distilled water and non mixed antifreeze and went 50/50 mix. no tap water anywhere.

hopefully problem is solved? i ran straight tap water in my blower motor with eddies and never had this issue.



Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: Jwilli500] #537427
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You have aluminum heads on a iron block, flowing liquid through a copper/brass radiator with a cooling system with metal parts is gonna need special attention to prevent damage. Fully flushed block, clean out radiator, ionized and mineral free water, correct anti freeze mixture and proper grounds will go a long way to keeping your engine running good and problems down.

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: chrisf] #537428
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Chrisf, What made you pull the heads to find that damage? Any symptoms?

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: imfixinmopars426] #537429
11/30/09 02:04 PM
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I have had the stealth heads on my car for two years now. The valves were poorly cut, stem heights were off as well as the spring installed heights. After a year I had the valve guides replaced as well. When I replaced the cam I also replaced the cheap springs, locks and retainers. Now I have about 2K in the heads including porting.

Mine are painted which makes my stroker look somewhat stock. Would I buy them again, maybe.

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: migsBIG] #537430
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You have aluminum heads on a iron block, flowing liquid through a copper/brass radiator with a cooling system with metal parts is gonna need special attention to prevent damage. Fully flushed block, clean out radiator, ionized and mineral free water, correct anti freeze mixture and proper grounds will go a long way to keeping your engine running good and problems down.




As I am about to run Eddy's....on an Iron block...I was told to run a Zinc Anode on my cooling system as to have the dielectrolysis attack the zinc and not the block......Now the question remains....where do I put this anode? In a water jacket or in the radiator somewhere?


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Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: Pyper70] #537431
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I just added mine in the top of the rad. Originally I was going to put it in place of the drain, but the tank wasn't wide enough. Now I still can use the drain, and I don't have to empty it to check or replace the anode.
Jim

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: 1fastrunner] #537432
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i have no idea what caused my issues. i thought electrolisis from the grounds at first then antifreeze but i am blaming myself as brandon takes no responsibility. lol

i am guessing now maybe a combination of the grounds, antifreeze and poor quality aluminum ???

i pulled the heads to put on a new engine.

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: 1fastrunner] #537433
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I just added mine in the top of the rad. Originally I was going to put it in place of the drain, but the tank wasn't wide enough. Now I still can use the drain, and I don't have to empty it to check or replace the anode.
Jim




I am to assume you brazed a nut on to the top of the radiator and then inserted the anode into that? Have a picture maybe?


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Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: Pyper70] #537434
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J C Whitney used to sell a sacrificial anode that fit in the filler neck of the rad. It may have been attatched to the rad. cap, I can't remember right off hand.

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: broncobra] #537435
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If you want to protect the head, the anode needs to be attached or grounded to the head. If the anode is in the radiator, it will protect the radiator.

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: 68_300_conv] #537436
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Are those your heads or are you just saving the pictures so you can be part of the hater band wagon




You don't read so well. I tried to jump on, but
there is no room on the wagon. Like I said,
some people love em and some hate em. With all the
Mopars in this neck of the woods, I've talked
to many that tried different parts from the source.
Some like the stuff, some will never buy that
garbage again. When Jason Line was still at
Line performance, years back, he said to me
(There is a reason cheap parts are not cheap)
with a smile and a nod.


Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!
Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: BDS871Cuda] #537437
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I'm always amazed... I recall the days when we (BBM guys) had limited choices for heads! ( I knew someone that bought Zeeker's back in the day for HUGE money) Now we over heads price pointed in the SBC range carry on


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Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: R70RUNNER] #537438
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I've got them and I've had no issues. They were checked out of the box and required some "fine tuning", I'm planning on getting some porting done in the future.
Jim

Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: Commando1] #537439
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looks like about 6 of the containers are on the bottom of the sea floor..most likly thats where your heads are at

hum? florida ship??


Re: is anyone running a set of 440source alum. heads? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #537440
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So What about us guys that have dedicated race cars and cont run anything but Water Wetter. How do we protect aluminum heads on an iron block?
Coolant is banned from race tracks.


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