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Re: A12 “Mr. Six-Pack” Camshaft... [Re: AlexP] #53627
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You have a PM.

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You have a PM.

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Thanks, I look forward to giving him my business.


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Great guy, you won't be disappointed!


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Re: A12 “Mr. Six-Pack” Camshaft... [Re: DPelletier] #53630
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I've been running one of his 6pk cams in a 383 for about a year and a half, I couldn't be happier! Still learning and still trying different things with it. The plan was to run the car at Fontana this weekend, but Mother Nature is showing no signs of cooperation


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Re: A12 &#8220;Mr. Six-Pack&#8221; Camshaft... [Re: R70RUNNER] #53631
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I've been running one of his 6pk cams in a 383 for about a year and a half, I couldn't be happier! Still learning and still trying different things with it. The plan was to run the car at Fontana this weekend, but Mother Nature is showing no signs of cooperation




What cam did you have in it before ?

I'm coming from a .484....it can only get better.


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Had that exact cam in it, a complete toad!

I only have 9.6:1 compression, 3.23's and manifolds. Bob K's cam was a HUGE improvement, I have played with timing, and carburetion(went from a 650 to 800avs) The cam loves timing, and the 800 woke it up a bit more (butt dyno.) I was planning to run 3.91's on 28" tall tires this weekend, but... I believe the engine will wake up even more with the gear swap, BTW I installed it at 114* Bob offers a different guide with 383's


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Re: A12 &#8220;Mr. Six-Pack&#8221; Camshaft... [Re: R70RUNNER] #53633
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Bob K. is the shiznitT I cant wait to try the engine he is building for my fathers road runner. It will be interesting!

Keep it up Bob! And thanks for everything you have done for me, my brother and my father. My dad will have the intake to you today I think!


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Re: A12 &#8220;Mr. Six-Pack&#8221; Camshaft... [Re: R70RUNNER] #53634
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Well, my friends and family scraped up enough money for my birthday for my to buy the Bob K cam I've been drooling over, hooray!! Bob will be seeing a check from me real soon, can't wait!

Hey R70RUNNER, right on you are running the cam in your 383. I will be doing the same in my 69 Road Runner. My engine will retain the HP Exhaust manifolds but will step up to a stock appearing Edelbrock DP4B intake with a Holley 3310-1 (780cfm). The stall converter will be in the same range as the stock Road Runner converter. My only hang up at this point is what gearing will this combo be most comfortable with? The tires are going to be 26.5" tall. I'd like the car to do fairly well on the highway, but want it quick from stop like to stop light. I also know that 383s like to rev, so I'm thinking lower 3.91s will get the baby big block into the range it will love best. Of course I'll voice my ides with Bob on this, but thought I'd bounce it off you guys as well. I think that Bob likes the lower gears as he runs the stock 4.10s that came in His car. We'll see?

BTW, that's very cool Bob has specs for 383s as well.

Re: A12 “Mr. Six-Pack” Camshaft... #53635
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Can someone explain the stock 1970 440-6 cam specs, its P/N, if its hyrdralic or solid lifters,what is the 509 Purple cam, and the difference b/t them? Thanks.

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Can someone explain the stock 1970 440-6 cam specs, its P/N, if its hyrdralic or solid lifters,what is the 509 Purple cam, and the difference b/t them? Thanks.




Check this website out has all the specs for the stock and purple shaft cams. Stock 1970 cam is hydraulic lifters.
http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/mpcam-tech-c.htm


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Re: A12 “Mr. Six-Pack” Camshaft... [Re: Ray440] #53637
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Thank you Raymond! Question answered. Nice Link.

Re: A12 “Mr. Six-Pack” Camshaft... [Re: rayztoy] #53638
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Has there been any changes to the Mr. Six Pack cam that anyone knows of? I am getting ready to start on my engine for my A12 Bee.

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Has there been any changes to the Mr. Six Pack cam that anyone knows of? I am getting ready to start on my engine for my A12 Bee.




From my phone conversations with Bob, It's my understanding that there were a few tweaks in the beginning (1990s) but what you get today is the unchanged standard everyone buys and uses including Bob.

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Here's a short video (sorry about the Iphone quality!) that gives you an idea of idle, sound and bit about performance. Motor is a PSMCDR legal 440-6 with stock crank, rods, heads, manifolds, etc. etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofma0go-jJk&feature=g-upl

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There is a link on page one of this post to an earlier Six Pack cam post with this quote from Paul "Beeware" Petcou:

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The Mr Six Pack Cam is the closest I've found to the orignal low taper six pack cam that Mopar made for us in 69, its not just lift and duration, there was a diffrent lobe used on this cam, all of the current blueprint cams that I've checked are not ground on this lobe even the one marketed by Mopar and yes I have track tested, it does rev a little higher and throttle a little faster and the midrange is stronger than the over the counter generic blueprints that I've used.




Is Beeware saying here that the factory Six Pack cam had a different profile than the standard HP big block cam? The DC manuals list it as having the same specs, just a lesser taper on the lobes, and larger radius lifters. Or, is he referring to the Mr. Six Pack cam as being different; it's not clear from context.

The reason I ask is that I have a NOS Six Pack cam and lifter set that I bought back in '75 when I bought my Roadrunner. I never installed it. It is a '71 part number cam.

So, is there a difference such that I should be thinking of installing the NOS cam in my engine (which is currently in stock form with TRW six pack replacement pistons, and a one bolt standard HP cam), or should I save the NOS as a curio and buy a Mr. Six Pack cam?

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Re: A12 “Mr. Six-Pack” Camshaft... [Re: rftroy] #53642
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i'm surprised that nobody has done any track comparisons, mr. six-pak vs stock, and posted times. curious minds wonder, .

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i'm surprised that nobody has done any track comparisons, mr. six-pak vs stock, and posted times. curious minds wonder, .




Okay, not exactly the comparison you're looking for but the video in the link below demonstrates the true real world capability of the custom proprietary "fast ramp" hydraulic by Bob K.

Also keep in mind that the A-12 seen in the video is running un-ported 906 heads with stock valve sizes as per Pure Stock rules.

Video here: http://youtu.be/OFaPlDt2jt4

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nice video but not the before and after i was looking for. i've played with engle cams a little so i have some idea of what they are. i just have some doubts about the hype, but could be wrong.

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