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Are these options real or made up ? #530289
11/18/09 10:18 PM
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Please confirm if these (hand written options) are even possible. There is no fender tag, only a promise that one exists somewhere in his house....so I'm buying it without a fender tag, but the options below look a little strange to me.

VIN: JS23V0B199xxx

I'm in the process of starting another project, this one is pretty rough, but well worth the effort and much more interesting than my 383 2bbl Challenger I just sold (after fully restoring it).
The wife can't believe I sold such a nice car and turn right around and buy a piece of Junk

Anyway, I know I have a a special car... but have not been able to find the production figures for special option packages such as track pack, elasometric bumpers, shaker hood, etc...

Is any of this information available for those willing to do the homework or is Galen the only one with this information (does he have it) ?

My main question is with the elastometric bumper - shaker - track pack, etc... is this car more rare than I initially thought or did most of the

6-pack 4-speed cars receive these options ?

Thought i was just buying a 6-pack 4-speed car.

Here are my codes:

JS23 V0B 199XXX
D21 4-SPEED A833
E87 440 3-2BBL 390 HP
0228XX ORDER NUM
B20 PROD DATE 11/20/69
000 FULL DOOR PANEL
H6E4 RED INTERIOR
FE5 PAINT BRIGHT RED
C55 BUCKET SEATS
C16 WOOD GRAIN CONSOLE
A62 RALLEY CLUSTER 150 SPEEDO
A34 SUPER TRACK PACK 4.10 DISC BRAKES HEMI SUSP
A21 ELASTOMETRIC BUMPER - FRONT ONLY RACE MIRROR
FE5 RED PAINT
N85 TACHOMETER
N42 BRIGHT EXHAUST TIPS
N41 DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEM
M21 DRIP RAIL MOULDINGS
J81 REAR SPOILER - WING TYPE
G11 TINTED GLASS - ALL WINDOWS
26 26" RADIATOR
Y05 BUILT TO SPECS - USA ORDER
V8W TRANSVERSE TAPE STRIPES - WHITE
R11 AM RADIO - MUSIC MASTER
N96 CARBURETOR FRESH AIR - SHAKER HOOD
EN2




Any feedback is appreciated.
Mike

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530290
11/18/09 10:36 PM
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Quote:

VIN: JS23V0B199xxx

I'm in the process of starting another project, this one is pretty rough, but well worth the effort and much more interesting than my 383 2bbl Challenger I just sold (after fully restoring it).
The wife can't believe I sold such a nice car and turn right around and buy a piece of Junk

Anyway, I know I have a a special car... but have not been able to find the production figures for special option packages such as track pack, elasometric bumpers, shaker hood, etc...

Is any of this information available for those willing to do the homework or is Galen the only one with this information (does he have it) ?

My main question is with the elastometric bumper - shaker - track pack, etc... is this car more rare than I initially thought or did most of the

6-pack 4-speed cars receive these options ?

Thought i was just buying a 6-pack 4-speed car.

Here are my codes:

JS23 V0B 199XXX
D21 4-SPEED A833
E87 440 3-2BBL 390 HP
0228XX ORDER NUM
B20 PROD DATE 11/20/69
000 FULL DOOR PANEL
H6E4 RED INTERIOR
FE5 PAINT BRIGHT RED
C55 BUCKET SEATS
C16 WOOD GRAIN CONSOLE
A62 RALLEY CLUSTER 150 SPEEDO
A34 SUPER TRACK PACK 4.10 DISC BRAKES HEMI SUSP
A21 ELASTOMETRIC BUMPER - FRONT ONLY RACE MIRROR
FE5 RED PAINT
N85 TACHOMETER
N42 BRIGHT EXHAUST TIPS
N41 DUAL EXHAUST SYSTEM
M21 DRIP RAIL MOULDINGS
J81 REAR SPOILER - WING TYPE
G11 TINTED GLASS - ALL WINDOWS
26 26" RADIATOR
Y05 BUILT TO SPECS - USA ORDER
V8W TRANSVERSE TAPE STRIPES - WHITE
R11 AM RADIO - MUSIC MASTER
N96 CARBURETOR FRESH AIR - SHAKER HOOD
EN2




Any feedback is appreciated.
Mike




100% bogus tag.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530291
11/18/09 10:40 PM
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From your other post, I assume it is the same car?

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Looking for broadcast sheet for:
JS23V0B199883

Thanks for any info-
Contact mike@Logic2.com



Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530292
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Thanks for the reply -
There is no fender tag...only the codes above that the previous owner was quoting over the phone and wrote down for me by hand - He said he think this is right, but for sure until he finds it.
He said when he finds the tag, he will call me and he doesn't appear to be a crook.
He's had the car for over 20 years in his yard and it didn't suddenly pop up over night.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530293
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That combination of codes is simply not possible.

If you got it with the car when you bought it, you should demand your money back from the seller.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530294
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He removed it years ago for safe keeping and is going off of his memory...What you say makes sense and now I'm sure what he said is not correct.
The car is a real V-Code Chalenger with a 20 year old title in his name and has all the right (appears to be original and untouched ) parts such as Hemi K-Frame, Sway Bar, Radiator Support, Cowl, Ate up Factory Interior, etc...
Too much rust and original patina to be a restore.

I bought it for what it is (without a fender tag) and I'm going to put it back on the road with or without a fender tag.


Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530295
11/18/09 11:16 PM
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The problem is the tag is 100% bogus like I said.

One BIG clue is the A21 - Not available at all on 1970 Challengers.

Get your money back.

You mentioned Oklahoma, fake tags are illegal there, here is a link to the statute;

http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=450125

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530296
11/18/09 11:19 PM
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Did you buy the car from Craigslist? If so, were the last digits of the seller's phone number ?

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Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530297
11/18/09 11:29 PM
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No, I didn't buy it from Craigslist and this car was (NEVER) advertised for sale, I bought it locally from a gentleman that I know and who is reputable, and that's not his phone number. I've been trying to buy it from him since I got back from Korea in the late 80's (Army). He finally sold it to me.

I'm 100% positive that this V-Code car is real and has been on his property (rusting) for more than 20 years, but as for the hand written fender tag... I'll assume it is wrong and there is no tag.

I really appreciate your feedback.
Thank You Very Much

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530298
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I brought the car home and she's real...just looking for her fender plate and BCAST Sheet.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530299
11/19/09 12:04 AM
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A01 is light group.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530300
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While I was there I also bought a 1967 Coronet R/T in pretty good shape and 100% complete (minus engine/tranny). He produced the title, fender tag and broadcast sheet.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530301
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Well, I guess that answers my question about rare options (elastometric bumpers were non existent)... A01 is more like it.
Thanks Alaskan

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Texican] #530302
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Hopefully he just wrote a few things down wrong.

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: Alaskan_TA] #530303
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Hopefully he just wrote a FEW things down wrong.




I was thinking there are MORE issues with the fender tag than just the A21

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: KillerBee] #530304
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lots wrong with that tag

Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: 6bblgt] #530305
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lots wrong with that tag




Uhhh, what tag?? I don't see a tag.

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lots wrong with that tag




Uhhh, what tag?? I don't see a tag.





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a PHOTO of said tag would solve allot of questions right about now......


Re: How unique are these options ? (70 Six Pack Chally) [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #530308
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I'm pretty sure you could not get a November built Challenger with a shaker (?) .
I think the shaker was available in August , then unavailable until sometime around June(?)just before end of production year. That's why their are so few real '70 Challenger N96 cars.

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