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i know i know ive asked before. but i got a 360 im ready to put in my 72 roadrunner/satellite and i keep getting told "oh that car is way to heavy for that baby engine" or that thing wont be fast enough"

HONESTLY ANY ONES INPUT WANTED.

i got 391 suregrip outback,360 thats running like 325 horse (guess). headers,comp cams xe262,home ported heads,stock bore and stroke, recurved distributor,alumnium edelbrock performer intake. any ideads or good horse guess to someone who has done something identical?

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It's never fast enough... John Force thinks his car could be faster.

A 360 isn't neck-snapping, but it's plenty of fun. Mine scoots around nicely, albeit a bit of a slug off the line due to my stock rear gear, but it cruises at 85 all day and rolls to triple digits effortlessly when I have it spooled up in the right RPM range.


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Just install the thing already lol, its gonna be faster than it is now, you already have all the stuff so run it and if your not happy than go BB or install a 4inch crank

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install it and run it

improve it later

3.91s are gonna do good for the weight out the hole and the 360 sounds like a good street engine

someone always got another opinion on what someone else needs

run what you brung

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yea like i wonder if itll burn the tires good? lol cause i wanna have fun with it.lol like i hope so from a dead stop.

like i hope its not gonna be a dog from a dead stop. like it will take forever to take off.

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It should fry the hides and run well. I like a big block in b-bodies but those 360's will surprise lots of folks. A good friend of mine had a mild 360 in a 72 Coronet years ago and that thing kicked lots of butt.

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i know i know ive asked before. but i got a 360 im ready to put in my 72 roadrunner/satellite and i keep getting told "oh that car is way to heavy for that baby engine" or that thing wont be fast enough"

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i got 391 suregrip outback,360 thats running like 325 horse (guess). headers,comp cams xe262,home ported heads,stock bore and stroke, recurved distributor,alumnium edelbrock performer intake. any ideads or good horse guess to someone who has done something identical?

lmk your input.thanks guys.moparts rules.




i have a gen-u-whine 74 360/4-speed road runner. don't let anybody fool you
into believing yours will be slow. this thing did 14.20's @ 98mph. STOCK with
a suregrip 4.30 rear. think yours should be A-OK.

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yea like i wonder if itll burn the tires good? lol cause i wanna have fun with it.lol like i hope so from a dead stop.

like i hope its not gonna be a dog from a dead stop. like it will take forever to take off.























Actually mine did GREAT burnouts before I stuck the 15x10's on the rear.... now I eat U-joints... so I don't do burnouts a lot any more.


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yea like i wonder if itll burn the tires good? lol cause i wanna have fun with it.lol like i hope so from a dead stop.

like i hope its not gonna be a dog from a dead stop. like it will take forever to take off.




You have to decide what YOU want most. Some normal size tires and/or a one legger, and the 360 will make lots of tire smoke trying to move a big car. But your car BEGS for really fat tires in the back, and that's what you need for quick take off (and it looks plain mean).

It takes a lot more money that most 17 year olds have to build a car that can do both!


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i had a 73 satellite with a 360,it was only a 8.00 car in the 1/8 but the motor had no problem pulling the car,it ran 15 years before it had to be tore down,longer than anyone expected it would.

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It takes a lot more money that most 17 year olds have to build a car that can do both!




Very true... especially for a big car like a Satellite.


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im also 17,lol,crazy...but hey man.what i did was i traded my satellite for the duster i have now,its lighter,way lighter,that 360 in a little would scat pretty good,i still have my 360 but im not gonna use it,i got me a 383 BB mopar ima drop in the duster

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Funny, me and a friend were discussing this very thing the other day. I'll tell you right away that I've been thinking of a big block and I won't lie about that. I haven't been ashamed all this time though to have run a 360 in my 68' Charger. I just want more, and I also want bragging rights of a big block in my Charger.

All along though, alot of people have asked me why in the world my B-body has a small block????!!!! My first answer is simply: that "well it had a small block from the factory" which was in fact a 318 2bbl with a 904 and 2.76 open 8 3/4 rear.

At the time, I wanted to keep it simple and keep my current tranny, current driveshaft, etc, and not even worry about new mounts or anything, except to externally balance a new convertor and then bolt in my 360 and GO!

My mild 360 with around 400 horse and now 4.30 SG runs 13.999 at Bristol and the altitude at that track adds a about a half a second to EVERYONE'S quarter mile times. Plus I floated the valves a couple of times when I didn't shift it in time (all excited my first time out on the track)!!!

After reading this post I might just keep the ole' 360 in there for a while now and save some money for now. PLUS: It just runs really good and super friendly on the street. Hope this helps. Good Luck in whatever you decide.....

BTW, I've had my 360 in the car since 99. 10 years of fun small block driving in my "big heavy car".....

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All along though I've been a little aggravated at alot of people asking me why in the world my B-body has a small block????!!!! My first answer is simply: that "well it had a small block from the factory" which was in fact a 318 2bbl with a 904 and 2.76 open 8 3/4 rear.





I don't know what it is with the big block bitterness... most people give a disappointed "oh.." when I say 360. If it was an Impala with a 350 that'd be okay, right?

I even had one guy at the gas station as I was sitting there idling... the car has a nice lope to it.. he gets out of his truck and starts walking over and goes "Man! is that a 440?" and I go no a 360 that I had built, and before I can even finish my sentence, he turns on his heel, not missing a step, gets right in his Dodge pickup and drives off without looking at me. [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]??

I dunno... The 360 swap from a 318 was straight forward and easy, and a big improvement in performance. It goes pretty good and I've driven it from one coast to the other twice... pulling a trailer. Works for me...





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dont worry bout them man,theres nothing wrong with a small block 360,you can get plenty of power from it,like i said mine did fine in my 73 satellite

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I'm not worried, I just don't get it. If you are a car guy, a cool car is a cool car. Maybe the 440 is the only motor size they know.

Plus I can reach all around my engine...


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440 is just easy HP,my 383 is pushing somewhere round 450 to 500 hp,but the heads fit right on a 440,which with the stroke of a 440 should increase the horsepower,my intentions were to get a 440 bottom end and bold my heads and intake on it

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Boss, That's great stuff you pulling that Uhaul with your big car and a small block! I bet it pulled great didn't it???

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Ran a comfortable 70-75 most of the way, except for the higher elevations where I ran out of air. It lugged a bit up big hills.


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I dunno, maybe I should have bought a truck?? LOL.


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keep em comin guysa not just for me all the 360 guys

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yea like i wonder if itll burn the tires good? lol cause i wanna have fun with it.lol like i hope so from a dead stop.

like i hope its not gonna be a dog from a dead stop. like it will take forever to take off.




it's still not in yet? you picked it up what, 3 months ago?

it lit up my 255/50R17's very well in my 3900 lb boat with 3.55's. the main difference in setup will be the intake, and the performer should match my air gap in HP/tq to about 3000 RPM. what will or won't make it doggy from a stop will be the torque converter. the MP166K converter worked well with that engine, I'm thinking a stock low stall converter will make it feel a bit poochy. a stock high stall will probably work pretty good for about 1/2 the price of the 166K.


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well back when I turned 16,my mom gave me an ex highway patrol car 71 FuryI 4-door with a SB 360/727 with a 150 speedo

cant get bigger than that

it was slow out the hole but from 55 to 130 it was a beast and I out ran a lot of BB on the 5 mile run..

a sb will just need a diff set up to do the same thing a BB does IMHO

example...a 318 does what a 360 will do with a lower gear

360 with a 3.23 a 318 with 3.91

360 with a 3.91 318 with a 4.30

torque rules and HP is nothing with out it

a 360 got torque a 318 does not

dont let them bother you

Boss ride is the man for useing his as a daily driver and seems to be doing just fine..nice burn out pics by the way

trust me..I have done more with less than most do with more

it needs to be a well thought out combo and you need to build it to do what you plan on doing

a race engine is for race a street engine is just that..works best in the traffic

my combo

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knocks down 18-19 mpgs and merges with attude,runs trip didgets on highway

drop some top end with 3.91sg but its out the hole faster

80 miles a day for a daily driver

I get asked all the time is that a 360?

be surprized what a SB will duz when you buzz the rpms up some

I run what I brung

its not a race truck,so I will see you on the street in traffic,buzz a race engine at 4800 rpms for 30 mins and see if it needs oil in the next town


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well hopefully it will run good and do what i want it to do.

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I have a 74 RR with the 360 that puts out about 350hp. Its an old school build with a purple shaft .474 lift cam, cast flat top pistons, a Holley Street Dominator intake, a Holley 650 with mechanical secondaries, and headers. It is surprising how well it runs and a lot of fun too. I would not go with the single plane Street Dominator style intake as it does tend to kill low end power. Great up top, but the low end does need the help of a dual plane intake. The 650 Holley spread bore with mechanical secondaries isn't what you want for low end grunt either as it will bog big time unless you roll into it from a standing start. Other than those two points I've been very happy with the 360 in my 74 B-body. The thing I like the most is how streetable it is. The front end is lighter with the 360 and the handling is nicer because of it. My RR does have the factory sway bars front and rear and I would recomend them highly for a street driver.

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The holley street dominator is a good low RPM manifold NOT a high RPM piece at all. The runners are very small and long and the plenum is not real big either.


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I have an Offy 360 on mine with a 600 Holley with vacuum secondaries...


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The holley street dominator is a good low RPM manifold NOT a high RPM piece at all. The runners are very small and long and the plenum is not real big either.




My experience with this combination in this car (street hemi grind cam, Street Dominator, and Holley DP650 mech secondaries) has been the opposite. It has difficulty in the lower RPMS and pulls like gangbusters from about 2500 to 2800 all the way through 5500. The Street Dominator does have small runners. Definitely smaller than the ports on the 360 heads. The plenum is short although sized for a spread bore carb. It is a fairly open though short plenum. In my experience the smaller primary side got fairly well fuel washed while the secondary side tended to accumulate some carbon. Perhaps I never got it jetted/adjusted correctly. As I said earlier it was an old school build. I believe there are better cam, intake, and carb combinations available now.

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Not to highjack the thread, but say you find a nice running 360 and knowing that stock 360's are weak on compression....What street cam would help build a little compression without ripping into the engine?

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Mine was built without a lot of radical compression, 9 or just under, I think, and if I remember correctly my cam is a few notches above an RV grind. I told him what it was going in and what I wanted to use it for... long distance driving, some light towing, etc...

I believe this is what I got, and it was an Elgin cam:

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The Street Dominator does have small runners. Definitely smaller than the ports on the 360 heads.


Yes the SB street dominator has 318 sized ports. I'm putting one on a magnum head 360 & should be a good fit


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Not to highjack the thread, but say you find a nice running 360 and knowing that stock 360's are weak on compression....What street cam would help build a little compression without ripping into the engine?




the cam that is in Erick's motor (used to be my old one): Comp XE262. that coupled with a lot of timing (~18-20 initial, ~36-38 total) works real good. a voodoo 60402 would be a similar choice. pulled great from ~1500-2000 to 5500 or so. if you want to bias a little more towards low end grunt, I'd look at an XE256 or voodoo 60401.


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holley street dom and a q-jet with the 2nd dary spring tighten up will get rid of the bog

I ran one with good results and no bog

all in how you tune it IMHO

I have run the SD on some stock 318 and never had a prob with it boging

its for a 2-v to 4- swap from the get go,so holley said,70 HP with a 2-v cam

I think it will be the best bang for the buck with a stock 2-v cam..I know mine was

with a low CR high lift and short dur are a big plus..

plenty of newer cams out there just for the lopo engines

sucxh as a hughes whiplash early intake close for building cyl pressure

not starting a pizzing match,but all I have every run is close to stock used junk,tuned right to get the most out of it

does it out run every thing?..no

does it surprize some when it does? most deffenetly

runwhatyoubrung

I am in to the fun of it..dont care if its slow

as long as it showboats


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I am by no means an expert on engines, but it seems to me that engineers put these engines in larger vehicles (like full size, extended cab, long bed pickups) and do not worry about it. I myself have chosen the magnum over the older 360, for reason of newer metal, less abuse, and newer technology (ie. roller lifters, etc.). Since the technology of the 60's and 70's helped pave the way for today's newer technologies, why not use it to your advantage. With the exception of the torque output of big block engines, small block engines can move a proportionately ratioed mass the same way. Also, power adder technology has moved from the racing circuits into main stream enthusiasts, which is lighter and tuneable (unfortunately more things to break eventually).


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Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527530
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A dakota r/t is a 360, weighs like 4500ish lbs from the factory, but has no problems breaking both tires loose from a stop and was very fun to drive on the street.

There are people with these heavy trucks running high 12s and low 13s with relatively mild combos since they need to be friendly with the EFI. Much easier to do with a carbed car since you dont have to worry about the computer liking it.

A similar combo in your car will make it haul ass.
And you;re damned right it'll do some great burnouts (both tires) without the brakes.

invest in a set of decent heads/porting and pick the right cam/stall, and you can make great power with a 360 no doubt. And for pretty cheap.

Re: 360 performance [Re: POS Dakota] #527531
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I threw a 360 together and put in a 73 Dart that I tore up the 340 in. It was a basic 360, a set of iron heads, a comp 292 shelf cam, KB shelf pistons, 904 trans with a 4.10 rear gear. The dart is lighter that your car but it ran 11.70's in the 1/4 mile and ran for years, pump gas motor. Dont let someone talk ya into thinking that the 360's are junk. They are alot of fun and will push that B body just fine. Put it in and drive the wheels off. If ya feel that its too slow for ya, put a little squeeze on it and watch it go....


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Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527532
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How much does a '72 Satellite weigh anyway? My supposedly 'light' '73 A-body weighs 3,500 pounds with me in it. I can't see a Satellite weighing that much more.

A 340 small block propels my fat Duster just fine.

Re: 360 performance [Re: dustergirl340] #527533
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360 is a very good motor to base a HP motor from, really just a set of Inexpensive 10:1 sealed power or KB High compression pistons, decent induction (like a used perf RPM, 650-750Dp holley and a good ~224/230 @.050 cam) and a little port work from making right at or just over 400hp with more torque than a comparable Chevy or ford.


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Re: 360 performance [Re: dustergirl340] #527534
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Quote:

How much does a '72 Satellite weigh anyway? My supposedly 'light' '73 A-body weighs 3,500 pounds with me in it. I can't see a Satellite weighing that much more.

A 340 small block propels my fat Duster just fine.




the motor is a runner out of my 5th ave, which w/o me is 3950 lbs....granted I sold it to him without the eddie RPM air gap and eddie 600, and IIRC he's got a performer and I think either a 600 carter AFB or 600 holley....

with a MP166k converter and 3.55's, it would light up the tires of my boat (255/50R17's) and keep up with a stock LX 300 hemiC AWD from a roll....

just get the dang thing in and running already!


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Re: 360 performance [Re: patrick] #527535
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4 dr, 4spd, 323" 3.23 geared, A body has the 340 hp cam .429/.444" and shaved 1.88/1.60" 318 heads, summit headers. Toppped off with a Edelbrock 318 Streetmaster SP low rise intake and 600 holley. Tuned Stock HEI curve very well. The 4dr is fast as a stock 90's 5L mustang 5 speed. First 4 gears anyway.

Mid 14's ain't bad. That's from a 318 4 spd with bolt ons.

14 mpg city/15 highway.

Re: 360 performance [Re: patrick] #527536
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How much does a '72 Satellite weigh anyway? My supposedly 'light' '73 A-body weighs 3,500 pounds with me in it. I can't see a Satellite weighing that much more.

A 340 small block propels my fat Duster just fine.




the motor is a runner out of my 5th ave, which w/o me is 3950 lbs....granted I sold it to him without the eddie RPM air gap and eddie 600, and IIRC he's got a performer and I think either a 600 carter AFB or 600 holley....

with a MP166k converter and 3.55's, it would light up the tires of my boat (255/50R17's) and keep up with a stock LX 300 hemiC AWD from a roll....

just get the dang thing in and running already!





lol i just got it all in as off 2 hours ago

Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527537
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Well drive it and beat the hell out of it. You can always tell yourself you'll do a big block once you blow the 360, which will probably never happen.

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finally got it in!

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Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527539
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another.throwing the holley onn.

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Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527540
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stuffing that bad boy in. do you guys think i can get headers in from under?

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tranny almost under the humppp!

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Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527542
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Re: 360 performance [Re: mark7171] #527543
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4 dr, 4spd, 323" 3.23 geared, A body has the 340 hp cam .429/.444" and shaved 1.88/1.60" 318 heads, s

14 mpg city/15 highway.


Only way that a 318 had those heads is if someone put them on or the engine was a 318 4 barrel engine which used the 360 heads. Other wise they are 340/360 heads not std. 318 heads.

Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527544
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i know i know ive asked before. but i got a 360 im ready to put in my 72 roadrunner/satellite and i keep getting told "oh that car is way to heavy for that baby engine" or that thing wont be fast enough"

HONESTLY ANY ONES INPUT WANTED.





The best input I can think of is...if you like small blocks and have a budget/goal of what you can afford and want to do, go for it.
Do what you want and screw the unsolicited opinions of others.

Re: 360 performance [Re: TMP66] #527545
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thats basically wht i think i just wanted imput

Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527546
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I would have laid the headers in the engine bay before install.


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Re: 360 performance [Re: MonGoo$e] #527547
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I would have laid the headers in the engine bay before install.




I doubt it'll be much of an issue. I put the headers in my 74 after dropping in the 440, just pulled up on the motor a bit with the engine jack and they slid right in. With a little 360 he will have a lot more room to spare.

Re: 360 performance [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #527548
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Here's what my 68 Dart 360 was/
std bore, 10to 1 KB's
273 rods
508 purple shaft
stock 360 small valve heads
adj rockers
single plane intake
worked 750 dp holley
windage tray
hooker headers
stock torque convertor
rebuilt 904 with a shift kit, nothing else
3.91 suregrip
street tires
full flowmaster exhaust
Car ran 12.40's all day in 90 degree heat.

So don't let anyone tell you they won't run. Had I had the chance to put in a stall and the 4.30's I bought for it it would have gone 11's all day. It ran 1.94 60 foot times so it wasn't taking off very well but pull as hard as a big block on the big end.

Re: 360 performance [Re: kenworth_goose] #527549
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The 360 in my sig pic should make well over 400hp/400tq if I ever get it done. As long as your pistons aren't way low in the hole you can simply add Eddy heads/intake/cam down the road when you have the money. I'm sure your 360 as is will do fine in there.


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Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527550
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Quote:

stuffing that bad boy in. do you guys think i can get headers in from under?




when I put it in my 5th, I put the headers in first, held them up and out of the way with bungee cords, then dropped the engine in......of course, I also but the tranny in after the motor was in....

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Re: 360 performance [Re: patrick] #527551
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got the headers in! finally! keep trying to get it started by pouring gas down the carb but still nuthing. idk what it is.

Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527552
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see if the plugs are clean/see if the plugs are getting fire/fill up the carb bowl vents w gas until the AP give a full squirt/reluctor even w magnet w dampener @10 before on #1 compression


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if you haven't touched the distributor since you picked it up from me, make sure I didn't accidentally put in in 180 degrees out...


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Re: 360 performance [Re: patrick] #527554
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Man..360's are awesome. You can do so much with them..People are under the impression that if it's not a 340 that it wont run. Pure bull....

I been told to use a 440 in my '70 Charger, but I always run into small block parts; so that's what I end up doing. I may go with the 408 combo however that way I can tell them it's just a 318. Yes, with a small block you have that sleeper factor.

My '74 roadrunner is aiming to get a mild 360 on the squeeze

A small block built with the right pieces will destroy a big block IF you know what you are doing

Re: 360 performance [Re: erick72] #527555
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Next time you put the engine/transmission combo in, jack the real off the car as high as your jack takes it.
It will make it a much easier install.

Re: 360 performance [Re: patrick] #527556
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well its at the mark its always been at? wasnt it set there at the running point?

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Because I needed to get my car running before you sent me your dizzy to recurve, I marked it, pulled the distributor out, put a spare lean burn one in to keep stuff from falling in, and then put it back when I did the recurve of yours. I thought I kept the rotor orientation the same for the 2 R&R's, but I could have put it in 180 out.

and check the basics, make sure you're getting spark/fuel.


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Nice job just remember if that 360 is low comp like a Ex lean burn give it all the timing it will take,up to about 45-46 degree's with no vac. Hopefully you wired it right, by the way if the car has Chrysler elec ignition make sure the engine is grounded.

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ok i tried starting it. getting gass and all but still no spark? give me all the things that give it spark so i can make a checklist to check all the places i could be making my not getting spark.

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Well make sure you got power to the hot side of the coil. If you have points then make sure that they're gapped correctly and hooked up right with the condensor, and hooked to the correct side of the coil (negative). If you're running a Chrysler electronic setup MAKE SURE the box is grounded to something wherever you mounted it.


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coil, ballast resistor, ECU, ground for the ballast and ground for the ECU. wiring between the components, there's the odd chance the pickup in the distributor went bad, but I doubt it, since I was running that distributor until I got the other recurved....


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Re: 360 performance [Re: patrick] #527562
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I know I'm a little late to the party, but my Daily Drivable 360 is as follows:

Wiseco Pro-Tru forged pistons, Plasma-Moly Rings
Stock rods, polished beams, ARP Pro-Wavelock Rod Bolts, Clevite 77 Bearings
Stock crank, balanced full rotating assembly, ARP Main Studs, Clevite Bearings
Windage Tray
Bored '73 360 block .030 over (early casting based on 340 core)
9.5995 deck height after machining
Cometic MLS Head gaskets (.027 thick)
SP HV Oil pump (has melling p/n tag on it out of sealed power box)
Crane Retrofit Roller cam - 112 c-line, 107 intake inst., 230/238 @ .050, 0.528/0.548 lift
MSD Ignition, Distributor, Coil, Wires
Edelbrock heads (box stock except machined corners of port opennings smoothed out)
10.2:1 compression calculated
Edelbrock RPM Intake, Tru-Roller timing chain
Milodon Aluminum Water Pump
Hooker Super Comp headers, dual 2.5" exhaust w/ Magnaflow mufflers and H-pipe
Holley 750 VS carb on Edelbrock RPM Air-Gap intake, w 1" phenolic spacer, and 1/2" NOS Super Powershot Nitrous plate (jetted for 175 hp shot)
K&N 14 x 3" open element air filter
Hughes 3000 stall converter (only stalling 2600 tho...) w/anti-ballooning plates, neutral balance, had engine balanced with B&M 360 ext. balance flex plate
727 trans with red clutches, koleen steels, kevlar bands, Transgo TF2 shift improver kit
Spicer U-Joints
custom ford 9" rear with 3.70:1 rear gears, Detroit Locker, 31 spline Dutchman Motorsport Axles

All of this gives me 340 whp on a DynoJet 248x chassis dyno without nitrous, and 438 whp with nitrous. She's run 13.70 @ 99.8 mph N/A, and 12.249 @ 110 on the squeeze with a "standard" pressure nitrous bottle (12.13 with a 1200 psi bottle). Runs pump gas always with or without nitrous, 92 octane locally. Vehicle weighs 4450 lbs with driver. Who says 360's are slow?

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