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Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: supercomp] #525307
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BigBear any word on a low deck casting?
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Why did you quit bushing the lifter bores? We use pushrod oiling so that means another $400.00
for a block.




?????? I'm not sure I know what you mean

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Didn't they use to come bushed?

Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: supercomp] #525309
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We have them both ways w/ and w/o the bushings. We have more blocks w/o the bushings than with and for a limited number only they are at no additional cost. We are trying to see which way is more popular to determine which way to make the next run.

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We have them both ways w/ and w/o the bushings. We have more blocks w/o the bushings than with and for a limited number only they are at no additional cost. We are trying to see which way is more popular to determine which way to make the next run.






I vote bushed. Won't hurt even if you don't need them, but if you do they are there.
As more people build more hp they need indivigual shaft rockers.(pushrod oiling)

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Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: BIG BEAR] #525312
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BigBear any word on a low deck casting?
Steve

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Alright my penny jar has a purpose! Please keep us up to date on this.
Thanks!
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I vote bushed. Won't hurt even if you don't need them, but if you do they are there.
As more people build more hp they need indivigual shaft rockers.(pushrod oiling)


Help me understand by clarifying that. I thought for pushrod oiling you need oil to the lifter, so unbushed should work? And if you put solid bushings in (without an oil hole), then no oil would go to the lifter and you couldn't pushrod oil.

1) Unbushed
2) Solid bushing (no oil hole)
3) Bushings with a small oil hole.

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I vote bushed. Won't hurt even if you don't need them, but if you do they are there.
As more people build more hp they need indivigual shaft rockers.(pushrod oiling)


Help me understand by clarifying that. I thought for pushrod oiling you need oil to the lifter, so unbushed should work? And if you put solid bushings in (without an oil hole), then no oil would go to the lifter and you couldn't pushrod oil.

1) Unbushed
2) Solid bushing (no oil hole)
3) Bushings with a small oil hole.






I believe your right Jim. You would need to oil the lifters in order to get oil thru the push rod.

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I vote bushed. Won't hurt even if you don't need them, but if you do they are there.
As more people build more hp they need indivigual shaft rockers.(pushrod oiling)


Help me understand by clarifying that. I thought for pushrod oiling you need oil to the lifter, so unbushed should work? And if you put solid bushings in (without an oil hole), then no oil would go to the lifter and you couldn't pushrod oil.

1) Unbushed
2) Solid bushing (no oil hole)
3) Bushings with a small oil hole.






I believe your right Jim. You would need to oil the lifters in order to get oil thru the push rod.




to much oil without bushing and small hole and lack of oil pressure.

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I vote bushed. Won't hurt even if you don't need them, but if you do they are there.
As more people build more hp they need indivigual shaft rockers.(pushrod oiling)


Help me understand by clarifying that. I thought for pushrod oiling you need oil to the lifter, so unbushed should work? And if you put solid bushings in (without an oil hole), then no oil would go to the lifter and you couldn't pushrod oil.

1) Unbushed
2) Solid bushing (no oil hole)
3) Bushings with a small oil hole.






I believe your right Jim. You would need to oil the lifters in order to get oil thru the push rod.




to much oil without bushing and small hole and lack of oil pressure.





What about restricting the oil gallies?

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Ask around and see what the big builders think. If it doesn't raise the price I think they will vote for bushings
because they are better in a high lift race engine.

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my block #33 came unbushed and i will be restricting the oil at the back of the block.i only use a 650 lift roller.milodon single line,melling HV pump.20/50 oil.

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Ask around and see what the big builders think. If it doesn't raise the price I think they will vote for bushings
because they are better in a high lift race engine.






If you ADD anything, it will always cost more. The key is to keep to cost as low as possible to the end user. More than likely all the blocks that we cast in the future will have the bushings installed, however you may see a slight price increase because of it.

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my block #33 came unbushed and i will be restricting the oil at the back of the block.i only use a 650 lift roller.milodon single line,melling HV pump.20/50 oil.





Thanks Metal Storm, We were wondering what number you had. Please keep us informed of the build.

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