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4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? #525267
11/13/09 08:11 PM
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Been out of the loop for a while on BB Engine Blocks. It appears that I now need one and if I remember correctly about 8-10 months ago you could buy about 12 different versions of a BB engine block from world products. They had standard bore, 4.500 bore, cast iron, aluminum, street versions, race version.......I think I remember them seeing something about a composite version. Now you look around and there is nothing....What happened?????? Looking for cast Iron

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I think Koleno has a sale going on theirs. Arguably the best one out there.

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i have an iron KP440 i am putting togather.there will be an aluminum soon and maybe a lowdeck in the works.

Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: blownzoom440] #525270
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Hey Lane
I havent heard from you in a long time...You still work for Best Machine Racing?

Did you finish that Dart chassis? Last time I seen it, it was getting some updated chassis work...

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World makes the grey cast iron in the Hemi and wedge blocks in several diiferent bore sizes, they where supposed to make compacted graphite iron blocks last year, but not available yet. They are making the aluminum blocks also.


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Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: Cab_Burge] #525272
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if its NA don't use aluminum we know that [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] don't work


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Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: bigtimeauto] #525273
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if its NA don't use aluminum we know that [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] don't work




a9sec70cuda runs a 4.500*4.500 Hemi (I think) in his NA 9.50's ....

Here is mine (race Version) 4.500 and will be NA until I have the guts to start throwing some N2O at it ... I noticed in my andyf book about the world blocks the street version are not tapped to run the powerglide or have the extra ribbing across the valley and the lifter bore's are not bushed like mine(race version) does.... Which also andy notes are more exspensive in his book.


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What I am looking for is Cast Iron, 4.500 Bore, Lifter bores bushed, Standard or raised cam block for 55mm cam, cross bolted mains. World used to have all their part numbers on thier web site but now it just show alum??

Did they run out of supply on the cast iron stuff. Really wanted their 4.500 cast iron race version. Just trying to figure out where all this info went.

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What I am looking for is Cast Iron, 4.500 Bore, Lifter bores bushed, Standard or raised cam block for 55mm cam, cross bolted mains. World used to have all their part numbers on thier web site but now it just show alum??

Did they run out of supply on the cast iron stuff. Really wanted their 4.500 cast iron race version. Just trying to figure out where all this info went.


Call them on Monday, or even today to find out the straight scoop


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Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: Cab_Burge] #525276
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Here's the scoop to some degree on whats going on with the cast iron Wedge blocks. Mopar ( go figure) actually waits till they get a number of backorders or their "system" sees a demand built up for a blcok order. They need to order them 100 at a time, and they also include the Hemi blocks into this "ordering process". Since there are approx 75-80 Hemi blocks in the system at the moment, there is no rush for them to order 100 blocks of any configuration. Until the 80 Hemi blocks get depleted to some degree, they wont be ordering more Wedge blocks.

I have been trying to get a straight answer from World as well, but no real answers.

World has a new program they are just releasing to dealers ( of all brands) so that is weighing into it as well. It will be different than anything that has been tried before in the business. Will have to wait and see how it works out.

That is the straight scoop, not what anyone wants to hear, but pretty up to date information.


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I think Koleno has a sale going on theirs. Arguably the best one out there.







Thanks Chester

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Quote:

Here's the scoop to some degree on whats going on with the cast iron Wedge blocks. Mopar ( go figure) actually waits till they get a number of backorders or their "system" sees a demand built up for a blcok order. They need to order them 100 at a time, and they also include the Hemi blocks into this "ordering process". Since there are approx 75-80 Hemi blocks in the system at the moment, there is no rush for them to order 100 blocks of any configuration. Until the 80 Hemi blocks get depleted to some degree, they wont be ordering more Wedge blocks.






Todd, thanks for posting that info so accurately.

I'd like to add: the above only applies to Mopar part numbered blocks sold through an authorized Mopar Performance Parts dealer.

It has nothing to do with World's business, or World's
in-house part numbers only sold through WP.

If you can't get a 4.500 "race" configuration wedge block (dual bellhousing patterns, etc)....since that configuration is not even offered by Mopar, it needs to be discussed with WP.

Mopar owns the tooling, but Mopar has nothing to do with race block production volume because Mopar does not sell that configuration, and has no active part numbers for that configuration.

Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: ZIPPY] #525279
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Yeah we all know aluminum NA engines are dogs


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If you can't get a world one right away go with the Koleno one! Much better block in mind in the first place and well priced.

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If you can't get a world one right away go with the Koleno one! Much better block in mind in the first place and well priced.






Now there is a guy that knows what he is talking about!!!

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Here's the scoop to some degree on whats going on with the cast iron Wedge blocks. Mopar ( go figure) actually waits till they get a number of backorders or their "system" sees a demand built up for a blcok order. They need to order them 100 at a time, and they also include the Hemi blocks into this "ordering process". Since there are approx 75-80 Hemi blocks in the system at the moment, there is no rush for them to order 100 blocks of any configuration. Until the 80 Hemi blocks get depleted to some degree, they wont be ordering more Wedge blocks.






Todd, thanks for posting that info so accurately.

I'd like to add: the above only applies to Mopar part numbered blocks sold through an authorized Mopar Performance Parts dealer.

It has nothing to do with World's business, or World's
in-house part numbers only sold through WP.

If you can't get a 4.500 "race" configuration wedge block (dual bellhousing patterns, etc)....since that configuration is not even offered by Mopar, it needs to be discussed with WP.

Mopar owns the tooling, but Mopar has nothing to do with race block production volume because Mopar does not sell that configuration, and has no active part numbers for that configuration.





Thanks for all the info guys. If anyone knows why they need 100 blocks to be ordered first, we do.

Re: 4.500 BB Engine Blocks???????? [Re: BIG BEAR] #525283
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One of the World's distributors has aluminum, raised cam versions on sale for 3495.00. heres a link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World-Pro...sQ5fAccessories

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One of the World's distributors has aluminum, raised cam versions on sale for 3495.00. heres a link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/World-Pro...sQ5fAccessories




$2,000 bucks off the list price
I'm confused

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Guys I have 5 World blocks in stock at the moment. 1(4.500) Finish bore and 4 4.310 Rough Bores. First come first serve and they are not over priced.
Todd

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Yeah we all know aluminum NA engines are dogs





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