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not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit #489996
10/06/09 07:02 PM
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My dad have a 1975 116 Mercedes ( 280S ) wich uses a York AC compressor like some 70s Mopars.

I am suspicious the Hoses were conected crossed.

Could a York AC compressor unit get crossed hoses conected AND STILL WORK ?


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Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: NachoRT74] #489997
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I don't think you can cross the hoses.

Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: stumpy] #489998
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Ma used a York? When? Ive only seen them in aftermarket applications (or a Tecumseh). As far as factory, I thought it was all RV2 until the Sanden came out


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Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: 69L78Nova] #489999
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well, locally they did specially after 75... I though in USA too on some models...

well, definitelly I can be wrong though

physycally is posible cross the lines on these compressors, but it looks is wrong to make it.

It looks then on my dads car someday in the past compressor was changed to a diff suction hose side compressor. Checked some hose routings and suction hose goes directly to firewall, same than my car does, but hose doesn't meet with holding locations and brackets on engine bay.


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Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: NachoRT74] #490000
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No way the ac can work if you switch the hoses.

I'm not sure what the pressures would end up like, but with the restriction(oriface tube, txv, whatever your system has...) in there they would be way out to lunch.

It would try to cmpress the low side, and evac th high side, and you end up with a bunch of nothing.

It would be like putting the carb and fuel system on the exhaust side of the motor, and the muffler on top of the intake.. It just won't run like that.

Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: dave571] #490001
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No way the ac can work if you switch the hoses.

I'm not sure what the pressures would end up like, but with the restriction(oriface tube, txv, whatever your system has...) in there they would be way out to lunch.

It would try to cmpress the low side, and evac th high side, and you end up with a bunch of nothing.

It would be like putting the carb and fuel system on the exhaust side of the motor, and the muffler on top of the intake.. It just won't run like that.





I know nothing here...just thinking out loud...


why couldn't it run "backwards"? my house is set up to run the AC in either direction, run it one way, and the hot compressed freon goes outside the house, and the cold expanded freon comes inside the house. this makes the house cold.

flip it around in the winter time...hot compressed freon comes inside the house, cold expanded freon goes outside the house, and heats the house up.

the car system wouldn't work the same way?


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Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: NachoRT74] #490002
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I believe you are confusing the fact that M-B used the same HVAC SYSTEM as Chrylser's AIR-TEMP II system. Not the compressors.

Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: Commando1] #490003
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No, really Venezuelan Mopars after 75 got the york compressor, so dunno why I though on some USA models could it be in that way too.

a friend of mine has a 76 dart with Factory AC and got a York unit.

Personally I have the RV2, but is a 74 Charger

whatever, I was checking some York compressor pics on the web and noticed they were made with Suction outled ( labeled with S or complete word ) on both sides. Simply my Dads car compressor should be changed someday in the past for a "wrong" unit by last owner. That's my conclusion


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Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: 70Cuda383] #490004
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I know nothing here...just thinking out loud...


why couldn't it run "backwards"? my house is set up to run the AC in either direction, run it one way, and the hot compressed freon goes outside the house, and the cold expanded freon comes inside the house. this makes the house cold.

flip it around in the winter time...hot compressed freon comes inside the house, cold expanded freon goes outside the house, and heats the house up.

the car system wouldn't work the same way?




In theory it would be possible, but I think the location of the restricton in the car system would make it not work.

A system designed to work lik,e you home one, likely has a different valve system so it work.

Re: not a Mopar but some Mopars models used the same unit [Re: 70Cuda383] #490005
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[...why couldn't it run "backwards"? my house is set up to run the AC in either direction, run it one way, and the hot compressed freon goes outside the house, and the cold expanded freon comes inside the house. this makes the house cold.

flip it around in the winter time...hot compressed freon comes inside the house, cold expanded freon goes outside the house, and heats the house up.

the car system wouldn't work the same way?




Your home HVAC system is called a heat pump.
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