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Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) #478041
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Does anyone sell the old street hemi grind anymore or anything similar?


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: GTX MATT] #478042
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Surely Mopar Performance does. I think it's 280 duration .474 lift. Comp has something similar in the Purple Plus line. Or just call Racer Brown and tell Jim what you want.

Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: bobby66] #478043
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I believe they were 484 lift and 284 duration.


Kayse can't keep up at all now. lol
Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: SNK-EYZ] #478044
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I believe they were 484 lift and 284 duration.




That is the one....


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: bobby66] #478045
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Surely Mopar Performance does. I think it's 280 duration .474 lift. Comp has something similar in the Purple Plus line. Or just call Racer Brown and tell Jim what you want.




that is the old street hemi grind...actually it is the revised one...the older one had a little less duration.


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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: 70AARcuda] #478046
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Old Street Hemi grind was cam # was P3690214,284/470.The 284/484 was the next step up.Looking for one myself.Have the 284/470 in the bird since 92,one of the best cam's I ever used.Still there after 17yrs.

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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: GTX MATT] #478047
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The original one was P3690214, 284 advertised duration .471 intake, .474 exhaust on 108.

In 1983 it was replaced by P4286631, 280 duration .474 lift, straight pattern on 110. The idea was to improve both idle quality and power.

In 1989, P4286631 was replaced by P4452993 which has identical specs, and the 993 is still a good part number today.

It's still a good street cam for a near stock 440, the best thing about it is not finicky about gear and converter. Also works well with low compression.

Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: ZIPPY] #478048
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So the 280 .474 lift will work just as well? I had thought it was similar but I knew the original hemi grind specs were different.

Would this cam work alright with stock stall and 3.23 or 3.55 gears? It seems a little too big to me.

I'll be in a '68 440, with headers and an Eddy Performer RPM, 800 with vaccuum secondaries.


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: GTX MATT] #478049
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The 474 cam will work with stock converter, but will work much nicer with higher stall converter.

Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: buildanother] #478050
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The .280-.474 would work better advanced 2-4 degrees.If you want MP the 272-.455 would probably work better.

Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: GTX MATT] #478051
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ive been using 474/280 cam in my 440 for yrs now,,im using 383 convertor (which is higher stall than 440 convertor) magnum manifolds with 3.55s... i have a/c & power brakes. would rec. to degree it in..

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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: magnum440] #478052
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Both the .474 and .484/284 will want a higher stall than stock. A better cam for a stock convertor'd car is the new Comp Cams .525" lift 231* duration at 50...HL275 or something. This cam works super well with 3.23 gears and stock convertor. We have broken 3 posi units and one drive shaft with it already in our street car. I wouldn't recomend it if we hadn't run it in a bunch of cars and had it outperform eveything else in a nearly stock application.

Last edited by Dragula; 09/24/09 07:02 PM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: Dragula] #478053
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I run the 4452993 cam in my charger. 2800 converter block zero decked with SRP flat tops, true 10:1, 346 heads with 2.14/1.81 valves. bowls and short turns blended.

with 1 3/4" headers, 3.55 gears and huge diameter hoosier quick times, I ran a 13.1 @ 105. Didn't to any tuning at all really. that was with an edelbrock eps750 carb, box stock.

I am now running street tires, mighty demon 750, 3.91's, and stock HP manifolds. haven't been to the track though.

Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: GTX MATT] #478054
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Street Hemi Grind cam is a real good one to use.Still using the old one that Dad bought in 1972 in the 383 Road Runner,only cam we ran in that car and went 12.26 in Atlanta with the usual bolt ons and 4.88's with a 4-speed.After I got the car,I put in 3.23's and used the OEM 585 cfm Holley and stock 666 intake and the car ran very well with it.I'm going to stil use the same cam when I finish restoring the car later this year.


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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: Chris2581] #478055
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floating back this thread... what's the spec at .050 ? on both "Hemi grind" cams old, ( 284/471-474, 108 ) and new ( 280/474, 110 ). I know the newer is rated on manuals as 238 what aparently is really closer to 234 and not 238, as somebody measured sometime ago.

will be nice to get CERTAIN MEASURED SPECS and not simply especulations


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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: GTX MATT] #478056
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Quote:

So the 280 .474 lift will work just as well? I had thought it was similar but I knew the original hemi grind specs were different.

Would this cam work alright with stock stall and 3.23 or 3.55 gears? It seems a little too big to me.

I'll be in a '68 440, with headers and an Eddy Performer RPM, 800 with vaccuum secondaries.




I've run this cam in my street car for over 10 years. I have a similar combination but run low compression, (around 9.3:1). I often think about putting a mild solid in the car (MP.528), but the combination is just so sweet as a driver. I added eddy rpm heads a few years ago and picked up a surprising 1000 rpm. It also doesn't seem to mind 87 octane.

The 3800 lb car runs mid 12's, 107-109 mph with a stock factory 22-2400 converter and 3.23 gear. It all depends where you shift the car. 4.10 gears are just a little too much and require 6100 rpm shifts to net 12.2 at 111.9 mph.

3.73 or 3.9 gear is the max gear I would ever use if I chose to compete with this cam.

I don't think a cam change is worth the few tenths gain for the few trips to the track. The big fat torque is right there in the driving range at all times for such a mild motor.


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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: racealittle] #478057
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engine? I guess 440...


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Re: Street Hemi Cam Grind (B/RB) [Re: NachoRT74] #478058
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Quote:

floating back this thread... what's the spec at .050 ? on both "Hemi grind" cams old, ( 284/471-474, 108 ) and new ( 280/474, 110 ). I know the newer is rated on manuals as 238 what aparently is really closer to 234 and not 238, as somebody measured sometime ago.

will be nice to get CERTAIN MEASURED SPECS and not simply especulations




Measured by Lew:
280/474 234@0.050, 140@0.200
284/484, 238@0.050, 146@0.200

Don't have the old Hemi Grind #s







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