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Detroit Locker #472882
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Just wondering if anybody here can advise where to locate the model number on one of these units? I am looking at a used one, and want to make sure it fits my application, a 1970 Duster with an 8.75 diff and 340 with a 4-speed.

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Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472883
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Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472884
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There's no factory locker for any 8.75 or even Dana. Mother Mopar stayed with limited slip. Lockers buck going around corners. There are plenty of aftermarket companies out there making locker spools for that app.

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Thanks for the reply, dougsmopars. I am aware that Ma Mopar never installed a locker from the factory. I am trying to make sure that this particular part is applicable to my car. I don't want to blow the cash and end up with a useless part, if you understand where I'm coming from.

Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472886
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Just wondering if anybody here can advise where to locate the model number on one of these units?




187SL14A

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DTL-187SL14A/


I'd hope the number would be on it somewhere.

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Re: Detroit Locker [Re: DirectSubjection] #472887
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That was my hope as well, DirectSubjection. However, I have had no luck so far in locating any number that even resembles such a part number. I get the impression that this isn't a soft-lock unit, but one of the older lockers. I have already visited Eaton's website, but didn't locate anything there, either.

Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472888
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That was my hope as well, DirectSubjection. However, I have had no luck so far in locating any number that even resembles such a part number. I get the impression that this isn't a soft-lock unit, but one of the older lockers. I have already visited Eaton's website, but didn't locate anything there, either.




If it's an old locker, it probably is a old circle track piece. Then you'd have to assumed it's been raced on. So who knows what condition it's in. I think they are tough to inspect without taking them apart. You can change the springs in them to effect harshness to some relative degree.

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Well, before I decide to disassemble this, is there anything I need to know, such as anything that may be under pressure from springs, etc.? Any exploded views, repair articles, that I can access?

Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472890
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don't know if this will help..I know these guys and they could poss help you
http://www.drivetrainspecialists.com/categories/detroit-lockers/chry-875-742-1.html

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Thanks all. Here are some pics of this unit. Maybe that will help to identify it.

5494474-MVC-002S.JPG (89 downloads)
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And another

5494479-MVC-003S.JPG (79 downloads)
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Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472894
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That is an old one. Probably out of the '60s.

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That is an old one. Probably out of the '60s.




What would you say, 90% chance it was used for circle track car??

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Yes, I have a factory built, 1964 circle track 742/3.42/Detroit Locker.

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Thanks for the posts so far. So Dr. Diff, is it still a locker? And as for the circle track question, it had a ring gear attached that was a 2.76 ratio, at least according to the numbers on the side of the ring gear. It also had the part number of 2070684 atamped on it. I tried to do a search, but came up with nothing. I am assuming by the part number that it is a Mopar part number. Not knowing much about circle track racing (ok, knowing absolutely nothing!!!), I wouldn't think that a 2.76 would be a good gearing for any racing application. If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me!

Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472898
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300 mph funny cars and dragsters use a 2.76 gear and lots of HP

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OK, I guess I stand corrected. Not knowing anything about circle track racing, I guess maybe it was used for that purpose. The ring gear itself was like new, no chips or unusual wear. I just was hoping to hear from someone that it really is a locker. The fellow that sold it to me advised that he had already had it opened and that it was in excellent shape. He said he bought it for a project car (as I just did), and unfortunately never did install it. I just wanted to be sure that I got what I paid for, a true Detroit Locker.

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300 mph funny cars and dragsters use a 2.76 gear and lots of HP




Did those run lockers?? I would think they would have all run spools?? (I'm not a drag guy)

Re: Detroit Locker [Re: 70duster340] #472901
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Thanks for the posts so far. So Dr. Diff, is it still a locker? And as for the circle track question, it had a ring gear attached that was a 2.76 ratio, at least according to the numbers on the side of the ring gear. It also had the part number of 2070684 atamped on it. I tried to do a search, but came up with nothing. I am assuming by the part number that it is a Mopar part number. Not knowing much about circle track racing (ok, knowing absolutely nothing!!!), I wouldn't think that a 2.76 would be a good gearing for any racing application. If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me!




Per my 1974 Petty Enterprises Catalog....

2.76:1 Ratio part number 2070690 (that is the part number you order. Many time the casting number or stamped number on parts are a different number but close). I would assume a 2.76 is a high banked speedway gear.

Ass'y, Differential Ratchet (No-Spin) p/n P3690151

FWIW...The picture in the PE Catalog of the Detroit Locker looks just like the one posted above.

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