First time Bird owner here
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09/09/09 02:10 AM
09/09/09 02:10 AM
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ramcuda
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Hi
Been here before ... just had to reg agin..
ok here we go I found my wife her dream car for her b-day.. So now im looking for some info on birds ..
1. what do all the #s on the top two lines of the fender tag denote ?
2. I seen a post on here a the bird owner has two jacks ? hows that ?
3. We got this car and it has a nice cage in it. should i cut it out or leave it in ?
4. the hood is luvered ( funky ) Can the hood be re-skined ?
5. How does anyone like the Passon overdrive Or is there better way .. ( we want to tour with the car )
this is the way we found here resting in the garge for the last 20+years ...and we are the 2nd owners
sorry about the size of the pic ...
Thanks David ...
Last edited by ramcuda; 09/09/09 02:15 AM.
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Re: First time Bird owner here
[Re: ramcuda]
#463678
09/09/09 02:23 AM
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Alaskan_TA
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2. I seen a post on here a the bird owner has two jacks ? hows that ?
The "normal" one for the rear bumper plus a scissor jack for the front due to the nose cone.
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Re: First time Bird owner here
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09/09/09 02:33 AM
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autoxcuda
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... 5. How does anyone like the Passon overdrive Or is there better way .. ( we want to tour with the car )...
For Spring Fling was had an awesome Mopar tour down 101 from Montery to L.A. Come on down and join us. :
Video of tour: http://vimeo.com/channels/moparmadness#4514474
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Re: First time Bird owner here
[Re: ramcuda]
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09/09/09 09:08 AM
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daniel_depetro
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3. We got this car and it has a nice cage in it. should i cut it out or leave it in?
A cage in a SuperBird?!? That's AWESOME! I tend to go against the grain, however if the cage is in there already and done nicely why not just leave it there (assuming it doesn't bother you)? Sure the purists will probably whine, but it isn't their car. Nice to see some who still plans to use these cars!
1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)
1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
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Re: First time Bird owner here
[Re: ramcuda]
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09/09/09 12:15 PM
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RodStRace
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Hi
Been here before ... just had to reg agin..
Welcome back!
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ok here we go I found my wife her dream car for her b-day.. So now im looking for some info on birds ..
1. what do all the #s on the top two lines of the fender tag denote ?
As mentioned there are oline decoders. There are some members that follow these cars quite closely, so if you are willing to post the tag info, they would be happy to sort it all out for you and they would appreciate the info on your car.
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2. I seen a post on here a the bird owner has two jacks ? hows that ?
3. We got this car and it has a nice cage in it. should i cut it out or leave it in ?
Since you are planning other mods, the roll bar is a personal choice. Many of these cars were modified before they even left the showroom, now due to rarity, value and having the restore them after all these years, most return these cars to exact factory appearance. If you plan to drive it and it's in your words nice, I'd suggest leaving it in.
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4. the hood is luvered ( funky ) Can the hood be re-skined ?
Yes, The aftermarket has a lot of sheetmetal that didn't exist 10 years ago. You can also get an original Coronet hood and use that as a donor for your repairs. Remember that these had an added extension at the front that will need to be repaired and/or blended in.
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5. How does anyone like the Passon overdrive Or is there better way .. ( we want to tour with the car )
You can do a search here and learn how any part and company has done over the years.
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this is the way we found here resting in the garge for the last 20+years ...and we are the 2nd owners
sorry about the size of the pic ...
Thanks David ...
Great story! Of course we all want more and better pics!
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Re: First time Bird owner here
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09/09/09 05:48 PM
09/09/09 05:48 PM
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DAYCLONA
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Nice find,......as far as the cage in the car, if it your "wife's" car, I'm sure she'll have a say as to wether it stays or goes esp if you have to climb over a bar to get in?.......be interesting to see some pics of the "louvered" hood? I'll assume that asking about the Passon transmission, the car is a 4spd, if so, it should have a dana 60 rear with (if stock) 3:54's or 4:10 gears, the 3:54's aren't bad for cruising, the 4:10's will be street only, as they would be unbearable for highway use, unless you like driving "slow" ,.....the Passon gearbox would be a nice upgrade if the "stock" look is what your after,........but if you like to cruise at speed, and have some serious top end speed, esp if equipped with 4:10's, and want to drasticaly lower the RPM's, and increase the MPG as well, I'd recommend a Keisler TKO 650/600 .64 OD 5 spd,.....that's usually my recommendation, I run one in my Tona' with a 440/6 Pak,450HP with a dana 60/ w 4:10's, and 27" tall tires,.....top speed is just under 150 MPH, at around 5800 RPM, cruising at 80 MPH is around 2200 RPM, fuel economy on long trips avgeraging 80 MPH is approx 20-22 MPG Mike
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Re: First time Bird owner here
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09/10/09 01:15 AM
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ramcuda
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Thanks all for the great feed back the tag decoaded is the numbers in read are the top two lines that dont decode RM23: Plymouth Belvedere,Satellite Medium, Road Runner 2 Door Hardtop V0A: 440 390HP 3-2BBL 8 CYL 1970 Lynch Road, MI, USA : Sequence number E87: 440 cid 3x2 barrel V8 (High Performance) 390hp D21: 4 Speed Manual Transmission EV2: Hemi Orange Exterior Color P6XA: Trim - Premium, Vinyl Bucket Seats, Charcoal/Black TX9: Black Int. Door Frames B30: Build Date: November 30 : Order number V19: Full Vinyl Top, Special Order (V19=Black on Superbird) V88: Tranverse Stripes, Deleted 26: 26in Radiator C16: Console w/Woodgrain Panel 122: Unknown 083: Unknown 676: Unknown
15150: Unknown 169388: Unknown todays ?s 1. rebuilding the front end ( rubber or poly ) 2. Tor-bars what die ? .90 ? (I dont want the front to lean) 3. what leafs in back ( want to keep the ride nice) I want to lower it just a bit to get that track car look but not slamed ? and we are doing a pic file that I will host and put up a link for you all... Miguel (Migs big) is helping me do that.. who on here does bird parts? thanks guys
1965 Ply "RAMCUDA" got to see it!!!<--- Should sell it/ 1970 Superbird <------ Just one big argument/ 1980 Jeep CJ5 <--- Just wheel it/ 2000 Dakota R/T <--- Should Drive it more/ 2001 Dodge Caravan <----- Cant kill it/ 2004 Dodge 2500 4dr DIZLE 4x4 <---- LOVE IT !!! www.moparalley.org
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Re: First time Bird owner here
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09/10/09 01:55 AM
09/10/09 01:55 AM
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migsBIG
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Hey ramcuda (david) glad to see your back on the site, been awhile now. Thanks for sending me those pics and john can't wait to work on the car. I'll say to wait awhile for body number posting til we get the car all sorted out and running good again. The passion is a great conversion and may not modify the floorpan like earlier ones did (thought the rool cage saw to that). If your looking for some good stuff on the bird, then Mike (dayclona) is your guy as he has those few little things you need that are specific to the car. The fender tag read posted by Barry (Alaskan_TA) is not to bad as long as your read slow. We talked about the cage and hood, so you know how I stand on those. If you want to leave the 440-6 out, I do have a nice slant 6, 3spd manual we can put in. I didn't kow you needed more stuff than we talked about. If you are wondering about rubber/poly on it, wait til greg is done with my rallye charger. It's getting bigger bars, polygraphite, tubular arms, friction pads, HD swaybars, kyb or blisteins and some nice rollers. SO if you and misses D. ant to see if the poly might be too ruff or the rubber is just right, I'll throw you guys the keys & you can take it out for the week when you go to sacramento. When you get the time, I'll get together and do the pictures, though I'm alittle busy this week with that other readrunner we found in the garage. See ya around.
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Re: First time Bird owner here
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09/10/09 11:40 AM
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DaveKanofsky
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Congrat's on the SuperBird!
Get it together and take the ride to Talladega Alabama for the Aero Warriors reunion at the end of October!
Post some pics of the hood, you never know if someone out there might trade you for a regular hood if they like yours.
For the rear springs, my nod is ESPO, they have done my last two wing cars leafs. They can adjust the ride height if you want.
MOPARS ONLY! '69 Daytona, '16 Plum Crazy Challenger, '12 Durango, '01 Sebring conv't Chaplain, Racers For Christ ( http://teamrfc.org/) John 3:17
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