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I new someone who was transfering a vin tag from a car they owned onto an uncracked dash pad. He had to pay a $5000 fine, but got out of doing jail time.

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Further proof that it illegal to remove a VIN for any reason. I do believe most states do allow it for repair purposes as long as an official (like a state trooper) is present to witness it and can sign off that it was done for a legitimate purpose.

No matter what always check into your state laws before removing the VIN tag.

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The original point or question was with regards to the cosmetic logo that is applied to the metal face of the embossed VIN. If the person who owned the car decided to put a flower logo under the vehicle number it does not change the authenticity of that car. The logo stamping has nothing to do with the verification of the automobile. That exact same logo is also found on the emissions decal and import decal of imported vehicles. I don’t recall ever hearing of anyone being prosecuted if they had decided to rub that logo stamping off their VIN plate within the tenure of owning the vehicle. Many original owners rubbed the logo off from constantly wiping and cleaning their dash pad. The white Chrysler logo has become the scapegoat to a problem when in reality it is only a symptom to the real issue concerning vehicle fraud.

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The original point or question was with regards to the cosmetic logo that is applied to the metal face of the embossed VIN. If the person who owned the car decided to put a flower logo under the vehicle number it does not change the authenticity of that car. The logo stamping has nothing to do with the verification of the automobile. That exact same logo is also found on the emissions decal and import decal of imported vehicles. I don’t recall ever hearing of anyone being prosecuted if they had decided to rub that logo stamping off their VIN plate within the tenure of owning the vehicle. Many original owners rubbed the logo off from constantly wiping and cleaning their dash pad. The white Chrysler logo has become the scapegoat to a problem when in reality it is only a symptom to the real issue concerning vehicle fraud.

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Are you gonna make this product so we dont have to deal with those pendejos at PCG, I would much rather buy from you even if its more money

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Sounds like he is (sorta ): check out the continuation of the thread I linked above.





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I new someone who was transfering a vin tag from a car they owned onto an uncracked dash pad. He had to pay a $5000 fine, but got out of doing jail time.

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I know I'm a lil' slow at times, but does this mean what I hope it means???

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Dave, you devil. Are you bringing up lunch pail parts again.
Jules

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Hey Jules,
Funny you should mention that! I didn't actually have these made up. I found a large quantity of them in slightly surface rusted Speed Racer Lunchbox circa 1969. I found it at an Antique Mall while visiting my third generation cousins, on my Father's Nephew's side of the family. Old third generation Uncle Emmett used to know a guy, who knew of a friend, that married a lady, that had a brother that worked at the Lynch Road Assembly Plant. This guy spent every lunch hour putting parts in his socks, under his gangster style hat and in his underwear. They finally caught him on the second night shift during a lunar eclipse in the third week of June. Keep in mind that this was not before he was able to get out and deliver these to a buddy who was not suppose to release them until August of 1997. I was just lucky enough to be able to locate the last remaining quantity in the entire universe, that could ONLY be found by possessing this Speed Racer Lunchbox.

I must be doing something right huh?

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See, at first I thought to my self, WOW cool story, Then I realized this story is a fake. Speed racer was'nt around untill the mid 70's. So how could he have but them in a Speed racer lunch box before Speed racer was invented? Guess I debunked this story

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Anybody ever try and put one of these transfers on their lunchbox with the windshield already installed?

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Maybe if you have realy small hands you could with the windshield in.

Still waiting for info on the paint used on the lunch box tag

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Anybody ever try and put one of these transfers on their lunchbox with the windshield already installed?

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Maybe if you have realy small hands you could with the windshield in.

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No replies Here is what I use on my lunch box tags:

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They`re made of unobtainium. The space shuttle was supposed to bring some back but they had major problems with the john to deal with at the space station.

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The original point or question was with regards to the cosmetic logo that is applied to the metal face of the embossed VIN. If the person who owned the car decided to put a flower logo under the vehicle number it does not change the authenticity of that car. The logo stamping has nothing to do with the verification of the automobile. That exact same logo is also found on the emissions decal and import decal of imported vehicles. I don’t recall ever hearing of anyone being prosecuted if they had decided to rub that logo stamping off their VIN plate within the tenure of owning the vehicle. Many original owners rubbed the logo off from constantly wiping and cleaning their dash pad. The white Chrysler logo has become the scapegoat to a problem when in reality it is only a symptom to the real issue concerning vehicle fraud.

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Are you gonna make this product so we dont have to deal with those pendejos at PCG, I would much rather buy from you even if its more money

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and this is the same guy that is going to bring us the exact factory carpet and is on the 3rd carpet co.since that big anouncment 6 months ago. yeh i would spend your money with him to.

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Dave,
remember what I said a while ago. Ignoring useless commentary is the best thing to do. You are only feeding
the situation. Keep up the good work in trying to improve the hobby for everyone.
Jules

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why is it every time someone mentions carpet or bad fitting glass, and no name is brought up Dave pops up trying to be
sophisticated with some off the wall reply then you have to remind him that no one mentioned his name.???????? Jules thanks for the parts.

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Dave,
remember what I said a while ago. Ignoring useless commentary is the best thing to do. You are only feeding
the situation. Keep up the good work in trying to improve the hobby for everyone.
Jules

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why is it every time someone mentions carpet or bad fitting glass, and no name is brought up Dave pops up trying to be
sophisticated with some off the wall reply then you have to remind him that no one mentioned his name.???????? Jules thanks for the parts.

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Does anyone have the source for the Dash VIN dry transfer or stencil for "Chrysler Corporation and the Pentastar"?
I need to freshen mine up due to fading.

Example pic attached.

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I need to freshen mine up due to fading.

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Wow, I was searching through Barry Washingtons site and found he had a build sheet for a 1970 Challenger R/T-SE 440 we had that we parted out back in the early 80's. I was so excited I sent him and e-mail with the VIN plate as proof of owership of the vehicle and he black listed the cars VIN and told me I was in criminal activity because it was not attached to the dash! I sold the dash out of the car and wanted to keep the VIN tag with the car, but I guess that was my mistake. The car is titled in my name as well and of course the fender tag was long gone as the car was hit very hard in the front end. They cut the front end off and we parted the rest, however now I would like to put the car back together and he will not send me the build sheet and says he will never deal with me. I guess I should have just send him a picture of the title in my name. Shortly after that I re-registered the car so nobody else could use my VIN number. Just frustrating. That build sheet is obviously critical to a 440 R/T-SE Challenger.

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Your title must be a fake, the VIN is not complete.

You admitted to parting the car out (more than once), so if it is gone, it is gone and I WILL NOT help you in ANY way.

Michigan does have VERY strict laws about loose VIN tags including those from parted cars. You should look them up sometime.


Everyone here should look into the federal & their state laws concerning VIN tags before they do anything with them at all.

Barry Washington

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Wow, I was searching through Barry Washingtons site and found he had a build sheet for a 1970 Challenger R/T-SE 440 we had that we parted out back in the early 80's. I was so excited I sent him and e-mail with the VIN plate as proof of owership of the vehicle and he black listed the cars VIN and told me I was in criminal activity because it was not attached to the dash! I sold the dash out of the car and wanted to keep the VIN tag with the car, but I guess that was my mistake. The car is titled in my name as well and of course the fender tag was long gone as the car was hit very hard in the front end. They cut the front end off and we parted the rest, however now I would like to put the car back together and he will not send me the build sheet and says he will never deal with me. I guess I should have just send him a picture of the title in my name. Shortly after that I re-registered the car so nobody else could use my VIN number. Just frustrating. That build sheet is obviously critical to a 440 R/T-SE Challenger.

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Wow, I was searching through Barry Washingtons site and found he had a build sheet for a 1970 Challenger R/T-SE 440 we had that we parted out back in the early 80's. I was so excited I sent him and e-mail with the VIN plate as proof of owership of the vehicle and he black listed the cars VIN and told me I was in criminal activity because it was not attached to the dash! I sold the dash out of the car and wanted to keep the VIN tag with the car, but I guess that was my mistake. The car is titled in my name as well and of course the fender tag was long gone as the car was hit very hard in the front end. They cut the front end off and we parted the rest, however now I would like to put the car back together and he will not send me the build sheet and says he will never deal with me. I guess I should have just send him a picture of the title in my name. Shortly after that I re-registered the car so nobody else could use my VIN number. Just frustrating. That build sheet is obviously critical to a 440 R/T-SE Challenger.

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Daniel,
Your title must be a fake, the VIN is not complete.

You admitted to parting the car out (more than once), so if it is gone, it is gone and I WILL NOT help you in ANY way.

Michigan does have VERY strict laws about loose VIN tags including those from parted cars. You should look them up sometime.


Everyone here should look into the federal & their state laws concerning VIN tags before they do anything with them at all.

Barry Washington

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