Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Here's the 73-76 Duster V21 treatment not seen too often. It's on my fendertag but was left off when the car was repainted many years ago. The little scoops were part of the Twister option only.
1970 FE5 Duster 360/904/3.91's SOLD
1973 TB3 SpaceDuster 340/4spd/4.10's SOLD
Moparless for now but when the opportunity is right I'll have another one.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Not trying to change the subject here, but as a side note.. Those are also the same scoops used on the '69 'Cuda . Greg Wards Classic Car Radio Repair Specializing in restoration and sales of Mopar A B E body radios We can restore YOUR radio usually in less than 7 days Visit our NEW website.. http://www.wardsclassiccarradiorepair.comgregward@mchsi.comphone 256-852-0955
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: Mr T2U]
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72 Road Runner with factory V21 V25 stripe
Nice car. I love those stripes.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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70 sport fury GT dan
OK what am I missing here? I don't see the V21.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: KISSAlien]
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09/28/07 02:28 PM
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My 71 Charger R/T V1X - full vinyl roof, black V21 - performance hood treatment V6X - longitudinal stripes, black Not the best or most current photo, just what I had at hand, but you get the idea...
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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09/28/07 02:41 PM
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Not to open a new can of worms, but when I bought my first '69 Road Runner (in October 1970), it had the V21 stripes, and they were in a flat-type black finish. Most, if not all, of the Road Runners I see nowadays have these stripes in gloss black. I purchased that car used, but I'm almost certain the previous owner hadn't changed it. The first time I ever waxed the car, I made the mistake of waxing the stripes. It looked pretty good. That is, until it dried. I taped off and sanded out the original and re-painted it with some rattle-can flat black and it looked great. That's probably why people go with the gloss black? I always thought the flat looked much better.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: Fab64]
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stripes are supposed to be flat black, actually textured organosol, the cars you have seen with gloss stripes are wrong.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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09/28/07 10:25 PM
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No offense Randy but here's a little better pic of a '69 Plymouth with V21...
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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09/29/07 12:02 AM
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Do all of the 'Cudas with PHP have painted grilles too?
EDIT: Nevermind, I see thw white one has an Argent grille...
Last edited by Black_Sheep; 09/29/07 12:03 AM.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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V21 on a '72 Charger w/N96... non-N96 cars were the same.
Bob, your Chargers are AWESOME! We have to get together sometime - we are in the same town. You show me yours, I'll show you mine!
BTW, my '72 Cuda has the V21 hood blackout, but the orig. owner painted it white because of the AZ. heat. My car is gold, & the OE grille was the Sun Gleam Silver, not body color. I've never figgered-out just how you specified a body-color grille on a '72 Cuda, or even IF you could SPECIFY one???
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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10/12/07 10:37 PM
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My car is gold, & the OE grille was the Sun Gleam Silver, not body color. I've never figgered-out just how you specified a body-color grille on a '72 Cuda, or even IF you could SPECIFY one???
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I think it was only an option if you had the v21 treatment. Over the years some owners could have elected to paint the grille argent rather than original, or just used an argent replacement grille.
Here's a listing of the colors: 72 ordering info- 72 'Cuda-grille colors
Parts book shows only one grille for the 'Cuda so maybe replacement grilles were argent?
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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I've said it before, that option looks great on the cuda's.
But existing is basically all I do.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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V21 on 75 Road Runner
I'll be damned. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Cool!
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: KISSAlien]
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10/15/07 02:33 AM
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V21 on 75 Road Runner
I'll be damned. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Cool!
It's the only one I have ever seen in the 11 years that I have owned this car.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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V21 on 75 Road Runner
I'll be damned. Don't think I've ever seen that before. Cool!
It's the only one I have ever seen in the 11 years that I have owned this car.
I can believe that. Tough to guess how many came with V21 since you hardly even see 75 Road Runner's. But I'm sure not many were made with V21. How many did that make total?
I've seen a red w/black stripe one and a white w/gold stripe one at Spring or Fall Flings over the last ten years. Neither will blacked out hoods. But never did look at the fender tags. The white one could have been original paint though.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: KISSAlien]
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1971 Challenger
I`m more than willing to be proven wrong, but I was under the impression that Hood Blackout was unavailable on 71 Challengers?
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: TiMopar]
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1971 Challenger
I`m more than willing to be proven wrong, but I was under the impression that Hood Blackout was unavailable on 71 Challengers?
According to production figures approximately 418 R/Ts and 62 non-R/Ts came with it.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: KISSAlien]
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1971 Challenger
I`m more than willing to be proven wrong, but I was under the impression that Hood Blackout was unavailable on 71 Challengers?
According to production figures approximately 418 R/Ts and 62 non-R/Ts came with it.
Was that just not the large `R/T` Decal?
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: Butterscotch71]
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I've never cared much for the 75s, but that's one SWEET looking car!
I agree.
And I love to see something different.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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10/16/07 04:00 AM
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I've never cared much for the 75s, but that's one SWEET looking car!
I agree.
And I love to see something different.
Thanks for the kind words.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: KISSAlien]
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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10/19/07 03:07 PM
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I have a 1972 Cuda with the V21 option on my data tag. I believe this was a 72 only option for Cuda's. Mine also came with a color keyed grill (which is not on the data tag??) and I do not have a build sheet.
Here is a pic of what mine will look like if I ever paint it
Dude, do you have any more pics of that car????
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
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Well, where exactly is the best place to get the correct organsol paint? I know Year One NOW sells it for like 150.00 + for a quart. I need to repaint my hood. It was done in an egg shell enamel paint. Any one got any suggestions? I would like the correct texture and something that will spray directly over acrylic enamel paint. Had rather not use a primer but will if I have to. I have heard of some PPG paints that are close but some say use a medium thinner while others say a slow thinner.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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05/07/09 11:42 AM
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what would be the code for a 70 charger w/ the V21 and 440 call outs? I'm going to do that on my 70 no vinyl, sublime car..too much green..
Pretty sure it's V21 and V24.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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05/07/09 11:44 AM
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another seldom seen V21
Don't all Charger Daytona R/Ts have that? The rare version is the Mopart Nats version which came with white instead of black.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: KISSAlien]
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yes, but seldom seen in my neck of the woods
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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This is V21 in 71-72. The Organisol on the louvered area:
71 Road Runners had the grill behind the air grabber bubble black. 72 didn't have it on the grill area behind the air grabber. Anyone who does have one like that it had to slide thru from the factory.V21 in 72 were the long stripes on the hood aside the air grabber bubble.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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1972 340 V21 option
Do you have a pic of the fender tag for this car? I thought in 1972 the black hood treatment was part of the Twister pkg only and not available on a 340 Duster.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Just in case you did not know, that is not an original window sticker.
Yes, I know.............I had it reproduced from the original pristine build sheet....
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
[Re: max]
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01/20/10 06:46 PM
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on the 70 Challengers, were any of the V21 hood treatments painted on
No.
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how many different ways were those hoods blacked out?
Just the one way for 1970 Challengers.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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From the Cyber Cuda web page CYBER CUDA KEY: A = 20" UP from hood edge (nose side). 9 5/16" between red areas B = 39" UP from hood edge (nose side). 9 9/16" between red areas C = from bottom vent corner (passenger side vent hole; hole closest to middle of hood). 11 1/4" to red D = 11 1/4" from hood lip (windshield side) to red. ** (Align togther with point 'C') E = 9 3/16" hood lip (windshield side), going over 6th vent (from center of hood) hole F = 9 10/16" hood lip (windshield side), going over 13th vent (from center of hood) hole G = 10 10/16" hood lip (windshield side), going over 5th vent (from driver's side fender) hole H = 15 3/4" from CORNER of hood lip (windshield side) to red ** (align together with point 'I') I = 46" up from hood edge (nose side). 9 1/4" IN from hood edge (driver's side fender edge) J = 36" UP from hood edge (nose side). 6 15/16" from edge to red K = 25" UP from hood edge (nose side). 6 13/16" from edge to red L = 13" UP from hood edge (nose side). 6 13/16" from edge to red M = AT hood edge (nose side). 6 11/16" from edge to red 1 = 4" UP from hood edge (nose side). 6 11/16 from edge to red 2 = 21 1/4" - from edge to far side of first 'red' scallop 3 = 30 9/16" - from edge to near side of 2nd 'red' scallop (not pictured) 4 = 45 10/16" - from edge to far side of 2nd 'red' scallop (not pictured) 5 = 52 1/8" - total width of hood from driver's side to passenger side (not pictured) # 3,4 & 5 are not shown on picture, but would be a continuation of the line between points #1 & #2. This 'line' was measured starting at 4" above the hood egde (nose side)
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Again from the Cyber Cuda web page OUTSIDE AREAS (from outside edge of hood to 'red' scallops) * = 7" wide at 40" UP from the front edge of the hood (closest to the nose). This is between the outer edge of the hood (on both driver & passenger sides) and the edge of the red scallops (just before the scallop curve begins). 6 11/16" wide measurement is at the front egde of the hood (closest to the nose of the car). CENTER SECTION (between the scallops) 9 1/8" wide at 4" UP from the front edge of hood (closest to nose) 9 5/16" wide at 20" UP from the front edge of the hood (closest to the nose of the car). 9 9/16" wide at 39" UP from the front edge of the hood (closest to the nose of the car).
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Here's a closeup of the Performance Hood Paint on my Charger. It is coded for it but this was a mid 1980's repaint...not very correct. Great topic! Dave
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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I just went and checked my 72 6pack car and the hood is painted black behind the bubble and the cowl is also painted black inside the outline of the hood gasket. Larry Quote:
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This is V21 in 71-72. The Organisol on the louvered area:
71 Road Runners had the grill behind the air grabber bubble black. 72 didn't have it on the grill area behind the air grabber. Anyone who does have one like that it had to slide thru from the factory.V21 in 72 were the long stripes on the hood aside the air grabber bubble.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Can't leave 72 Demons out..
Those Demon stripes look awesome!
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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This thread started in 2007 Lower grille on this car would not have been painted body color from the factory, it should be argent
Good point, but man does it look good!!!
Is that a turbo or supercahrged small block under the hood?!?!?!?!?!
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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on the 70 Challengers, were any of the V21 hood treatments painted on and how many different ways were those hoods blacked out?
I forgot about this post, but here's a photo of the painted treatment on mine.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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tease ....you have more right?!?!??!
Looks good!
check the project/survivor section for my post
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Here are the corresponding V25 stripes. Also, V21/V25 stripes were always black.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Original paint / owner 71 GTX NOT coded for V21 on the tag....looks like this one slipped through the cracks. I talked to the owner and he confirmed it had always been that way.
addict:to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively ....hmmmm
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Original paint / owner 71 GTX NOT coded for V21 on the tag....looks like this one slipped through the cracks. I talked to the owner and he confirmed it had always been that way.
No slip on that car. Pretty common actually but there has been some debate on 71 N96 Roadrunners and GTXs. Seems pretty much all came with the paint behind the scoop. Since it was bundled with the N96, the extra code on the tag wasn't necessary. Some plants started leaving the code off.
Same thing with the 72 V21/V25 combo. Since V25 stripes always were packaged with V21 stripes, the code was redundant. Whether or not you got a V25 code depends on the plant and broadcast date. V25 is found on all V21 Windsor cars, but few St. Louis cars. Just saves space on the tag.
Actually, my experience with 72s is just the opposite, V21/V25 is coded on St Louis cars, but Winsor cars only had V21 on the tag.
As for 71s, I have to disagree with you on that too. I've been tracking these cars for a long time now. I have very early cars from all plants with N96 and no V21, and I also have very late build cars with V21 and N96 on the tag. There is no coding trend based on build plant either. The car pictured was a two tag car, so there would be no reason to try to save tag space.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Same thing with the 72 V21/V25 combo. Since V25 stripes always were packaged with V21 stripes, the code was redundant. Whether or not you got a V25 code depends on the plant and broadcast date. V25 is found on all V21 Windsor cars, but few St. Louis cars. Just saves space on the tag.
pic of my st louis build n96 v21 v25 tag. 2nd tag is NAD PAINT pic of car on page #1
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Actually, my experience with 72s is just the opposite, V21/V25 is coded on St Louis cars, but Winsor cars only had V21 on the tag.
As for 71s, I have to disagree with you on that too. I've been tracking these cars for a long time now. I have very early cars from all plants with N96 and no V21, and I also have very late build cars with V21 and N96 on the tag. There is no coding trend based on build plant either. The car pictured was a two tag car, so there would be no reason to try to save tag space.
Whoops. I stand corrected on the 72. Just checked a couple of photos. My StL build car has a repro tag with no V25, so it threw me. I've seen a couple Windsor tags lacking the V25.
May have just depended on who was stamping tags on that day.
71 N96's are inconsistent for sure, both on the tag code, and the actual paint application.
-Jim
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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1969 Dodge Super Bee A12 (440 Six Pack, 4-speed, Dana 60 4.10)
1972 Plymouth Road Runner (400, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
1974 Plymouth Duster 360 (360, 4-speed, 8.75" 3.23)
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Here's how much the V-21 cost on my '72 Cuda:
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Anyone have a photo of a 1969 "E" LA assembly plant fender tag with the V21 code?
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Thanks Dan Is there any chance that it could ever be missing off of a LA fender tag and have the hood treatment?? MikeR Already sitting here laughing about the answers I'm going to get for asking this question
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Thanks Dan
Is there any chance that it could ever be missing off of a LA fender tag and have the hood treatment??
MikeR
Already sitting here laughing about the answers I'm going to get for asking this question
No build sheet huh?
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Thanks Dan
Is there any chance that it could ever be missing off of a LA fender tag and have the hood treatment??
MikeR
Already sitting here laughing about the answers I'm going to get for asking this question
No build sheet huh?
LA Assembly Plant...how many Broadcast Sheets has anyone seen from the LA plant.....heard they were into recycling paper even back then
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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70 sport fury GT dan
OK what am I missing here? I don't see the V21.
its there.. here,s a VCODE GT sheet for you to peruse..
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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I would like to see a 72 Cuda in Winchester gray with the V21 option. From what I have been able to find out there was one built that color and it was an export. I think it would look awesome in that color combo.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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I would like to see a 72 Cuda in Winchester gray with the V21 option. From what I have been able to find out there was one built that color and it was an export. I think it would look awesome in that color combo.
Unsure on exports but there were apparently at least two grey V21's. The export you spoke of is in Australia I bet huh?
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Nice those color combo works well together. Not sure where the export went. Thanks for the picture.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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This is V21 in 71-72. The Organisol on the louvered area:
71 only..sorry but in 72 they were stripes running down both sides of an air grabber car...Been seen on flat hood Sattys as well..
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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St Louis Built 72 RR with V21 V25 both coded on the tag.. Bottom tag is the latest GTX...72 AS WELL..
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A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Orange... (color keyed grille and chrome mirrors???) Lower grill is orange is this the blower car? 73 Bumper ?
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Snoopy once posted this. It's from the 70 service manual. If anyone has a 72 service manual and can provide the same type info for the Cuda's V21 hood blackout I'd appreciate it.
I have the 72 Plymouth Service and Body Manuals but can't find reference to the V21. I thought the refinishing section of the body manual would have had it but no.
Where in the 70 manual did you find it? What section?
Mike.
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Re: Performance Hood Treatment - organisol paint
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Some one was asking about organisol paint availability
Once again DDL 9355 is still available from most ppg paint supply houses. However the texture additive is NOT the same as from the 1970's but it's fine for todays cars unless you are going for the oe gold. You do not have to pay years ones inflated price if you buy direct.
And one more important bit of information The DDL 9355 organisol paint over time wears down, period. I have lived with this paint for too many years now. So unless your 1970's vehicle with orig paint has been in a hermetically sealed container the texture and surface of the organisol paint will not be the same as it was when new.
I just bought a quart of Kustom Shop textured Black for mt project. I havent sprayed it yet but when I do I will post some pictures. Its a single stage Urethane.
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Moparmike Thanks for taking the time looking through your manual. I also find the Satellite you posted above very interesting. The accompanying data you posted appears to show that the Fender hood (tank stripe) is only for RM23 cars, but NA with V21, V25, V8 stripes or Air grabber N96.
Another promo shot.
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Re: Engineering print 72 Air Grabber paint
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Line C on the revision block says something like "C/OUT 1, 1971 ONLY ADDED" Line D (top line) says "1972 something something" Driving myself batty trying to decipher it. Line B also references 1972 Who's got a cleaner copy!?!?!?
-Jim
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Here's a diagram I have for the 72 Air Grabber paint treatment for the hood and black organisol is referenced.
Mike.
Sorry Mike that is 71 only..72 stripes are as pictured for V21 hood V25 deck lid..
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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This is complements of another member thanks Tim.
Oct 1971 Hot Rod, 1972 modelyear previews I know some of you spotted it in print already..... 72 440-6 info
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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If anyone knows this cars location I'D LOVE IT'S DATA TAG INFO (or any V21 cars you find) this pic was posted to FB by Graveyard Cars
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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Compliments of member moparpollack (note: the chrome mirrors are not G36 so the painted grille is in question)
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Re: V21 - Performance Hood Treatment
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I am still seeking the factory Engineering Diagram for this hood option or any other information on the 1972 Cuda V21 option. I also compile data from any of these cars I can
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