Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
[Re: '64 Belvedere]
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08/21/09 10:01 PM
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Make it a big block 4 speed sleeper. Put a 440 with a 65 or newer 4 speed transmission and a set of dog dish hubcaps and go out and annihilate the camaros and mustangs. You'll need to swap the /6 k-member to a V-8 k-member, 273, 318, 361, 383, 426 wedge cars all used the same k-member, /6 k-frame is /6 only.
Also cars like your Belvedere and other 1964 B-bodies like Savoy, Fury, Sport fury, and Dodge Polara's came with the 8 3/4 rear axle. Which is a good axle except for the tapered end axles, but you can get a new set of axles from Moser, Strange, Mark Williams, Yukon, etc... any number of companies. Swapping to the later bolt-in axles makes swapping gears and doing any kind of brake repairs a lot easier.
Is your car a pushbutton automatic, 3 on the tree or four on the floor?
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Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
[Re: '64 Belvedere]
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08/21/09 10:33 PM
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If you switch from auto to 4 speed you need to find manual trans pedals, z-bar, downrod, frame side z-bar bracket, bellhousing side z-bar bracket, bellhousing, transmission, shifter rods-levers-mechanism, shifter handle, and a 4 speed floor hump. Cool thing is Brewers performance has all of these parts in stock. Check out their website at http://www.brewersperformance.com/ If you decide to leave the car pushbutton automatic you can either find a big block pushbutton transmission or use a later trans with the Imperial services conversion cables http://www.imperialservices.net/ to operate the transmission or block off the pushbutton on the dash and go to an aftermarket automatic trans shifter on the floor, from B&M www.bmracing.com or Hurst. www.hurst-shifters.com/ Definately upgrade the fronts to disc brakes if you decide to do the rears after you swap out the tapered axles out of your car for some later style bolt-in axles you can either go with the original 10" drums or upgrade to 11" drums or convert to disc brakes from a bunch of different companies check out dr.diffs website at http://www.doctordiff.com/ or scarebird classic brakes makes disc brake conversion kits for a bunch of different cars including older mopars http://www.scarebird.com/
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Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
[Re: '64 Belvedere]
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08/21/09 11:18 PM
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RapidRobert
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What cars would have had a big block push button tranny in it?
any BB car and you would want a 64 trans to work w your pushbuttons. EDIT 63-65 car
Last edited by RapidRobert; 08/22/09 01:07 AM.
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Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
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08/21/09 11:59 PM
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440 or 400(451)
I agree with this. Any bigblock will run good with a small amount of work. I did a 440 as they are not to hard to get and then put the 426 badges on the eng as you could get the 426 Max Wedge or street 426 in them in 64. Ron
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Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
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08/22/09 04:27 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong guys......an Ebody 8 3/4 will bolt in?
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Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
[Re: '64 Belvedere]
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08/22/09 05:34 PM
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Definately buy that 65 bb727 if he only wants $200 for it. Make sure it has never been stored outside in the rain, pull the bottom pan off and inspect the inside for rust and/or any massive damage. Also try and get the kickdown linkage, very important and hard to find by itself. You can reuse your shifter cables from your car, the 65 cables won't work unless they are for a console and you convert your car to a console, which in a four door would be kind of cool. Like Rapid said a 440 or 451 (400 motor with a 440 crank) would be the easiest to build and make good torque and horsepower. Start with a forged crank and pistons for years of dependable service, and a good foundation for later modifications. You can find good deals every once in a while here on moparts in the big block classified section or http://www.racingjunk.com or greedbay. With $2000 to $4000 to spend, you can easily swap to a big block, just keep your eyes open for good deals. Quote:
Correct me if I am wrong guys......an Ebody 8 3/4 will bolt in?
It would be kind of a tight fit, you would have to pull the leaf springs out an inch on each side (b-body spring perches are 44" apart and e-body are 46" apart).
If you want a drop in rear axle assembly for the 63-64 b-bodies (overall width is 60 7/8"). Then my first choice would be the 65-67 b-body rear axles since their width is 59 1/2" (you gain about 5/8th of an inch clearance on each side, this may not sound like much, but when you go to cram a fat tire in the rear wheel wells every 1/8th is needed, unless you are going to split the rear wheel tubs and move the springs in) and then my second choice would be the 68-70 b-bodies their width is 60 1/8" (almost the same as the 1964 width).
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Re: Replace my /6 with what motor/tranny for my '64 Belvd
[Re: '64 Belvedere]
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08/22/09 08:58 PM
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BTW you might want to sell your slant tranny at www.slantsix.org it is probably a B body length. Longer than the A body models. Most guys over there are A body people. BTW Did I steer you to a good place? Welcome
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