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Six Pack Question #435212 08/11/09 08:43 PM 08/11/09 08:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 668 Hamburg, Pa. 7 72 RR DUDE OP mopar
72 RR DUDE OP mopar 7 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 668 Hamburg, Pa.	Should you be able to see the end carbs open when you hand throttle it or do they only open under power when the vacumn is higher?

Re: Six Pack Question [Re: 72 RR DUDE] #435213 08/11/09 08:58 PM 08/11/09 08:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies aarcuda I Live Here
aarcuda I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15,478 the boonies	you should NOT see them open when you are sitting still in park

Re: Six Pack Question [Re: aarcuda] #435214 08/11/09 09:08 PM 08/11/09 09:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 797 arizona, usa L lokalik super stock
lokalik super stock L Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 797 arizona, usa	so if you floor it in park or netural the outboards will not open? what is it about the vacumm while driving or sitting still that makes them open? does a 4bbl open under the same conditions?

Re: Six Pack Question [Re: 72 RR DUDE] #435215 08/11/09 11:32 PM 08/11/09 11:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 836 lancaster, new york macmic87 super stock
macmic87 super stock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 836 lancaster, new york	i have no problem seeing the end carbs start to open when i hand throttle the center carb. obviously you would not want to hold it open to long. especially with the lighter springs you should see some movement.

Re: Six Pack Question [Re: lokalik] #435216 08/12/09 07:23 AM 08/12/09 07:23 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 511 Jasper, Indiana fastnos mopar
fastnos mopar Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 511 Jasper, Indiana	Quote: so if you floor it in park or netural the outboards will not open? what is it about the vacumm while driving or sitting still that makes them open? does a 4bbl open under the same conditions? (From a few post before..) (RR dude)- My outer carbs don't always seem to be kicking in. I have 10 lbs vacumn. What color springs should I have in the outboards. I don't understand why vacumn would't have anything to do with them opening when you have vacumn to them. (LEE446)- If manifold vac was used, the end carbs would be wide open at idle! The vacuum that operates the end carbs is generated by airflow through the center carb venturi's. When airflow is high, as in W.O.T,on the center, a high vac signal is generated and sent to the end carbs via the vac hoses that hook up to the center carb. End carbs also have a "Kill Bleed" that is a tiny hole in the venturi that bleeds off some of the vac signal so that the carbs don't open too soon. 340 carbs have a bigger kill bleed hole so they would open slower if used on a 440 car. (macmic87) the kill bleed size determine at what rpm the secondaries will start to open and the springs regulate how fast they open. small block carbs have larger kill bleeds to have the carbs open at a higher rpm. (Moper) I would start with stock plain. The next faster is purple, then tall yellow, then short yellow IIRC. I have never had to use more than the tall yellow in a 6bbl. You should never feel a bog as they open. As noted, they run on a vacuum signal generated by airflow thru the center carb just like a VS 4bbl uses the airflow from the primary half. Not the piston produced vacuum you're thinking of. HOPE THIS HELPS.....Might save a few others from typing this again A True Hybrid: Burns Gas AND Rubber!

Re: Six Pack Question [Re: aarcuda] #435217 08/12/09 08:32 AM 08/12/09 08:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	Quote: you should NOT see them open when you are sitting still in park ditto, If you want to see them open, rev it to 3k then move them by hand...the engine will bog then race... [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

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