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Re: No low end Torque on 383 Dart [Re: 68 Dart GTS] #427803
02/25/10 12:50 AM
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It's a good thing the chebby/furd guys dont have our dedication and support system . when you find it be sure and post it


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Re: Would the XE256 cause an E58 to have low vacuum? [Re: 68 Dart GTS] #427804
02/25/10 11:16 AM
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approx. 9.5-1 to 10-1 comp. 12 degrees intl. and 14 vac.




is that verified or what the pistons are supposed to give?

KB flat tops at 0 deck, steel shim head gasket, and OEM 906 heads usually only yields 9:1....if they are stock type replacement pistons in the hole, you're probably in the low-mid 8's at best.

what's your cranking compression in PSI?

initial with that cam, assuming actual compression is in the 8's, I'd run about 18-20. if your cranking compression comes in low (under 150), I'd seriously consider dropping in cam size a bit (lunati voodoo 60302 is what I'd pick), or opening up the motor and advancing installed centerline of the cam 4-6 degrees to close the intake valve sooner to gain cranking compression. the torker is also a mediocre intake...especially if you're looking for "street" performance...

http://hotrod.automotive.com/62106/hrdp-0712-mopar-intake-manifold-comparo/edelbrock-383.html

check out the torque figures at 3000 RPM...it's down 25 lb-ft from a weiand action plus, or eddie performer, and most likely a stock intake.


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Re: Would the XE256 cause an E58 to have low vacuum? [Re: patrick] #427805
02/25/10 12:10 PM
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The comp you have is fine with that motor its actually pretty good. The problem is not initial its total get tha low comp up timing wise and and forget the 36 total crap Mopar preaches,The 36 toatl is for 9-10-11 one comp not some lean burn cast off 360. Try to find a Accell dual point dist put it in stock and set the total starting at 44 degree's, and try it you will love the way it performs provided everything else is up to snuff/ put a 650 dbl pumper on it and go have fun. Insist on TQ then tighten up the air valve so that it will not just flop open like the factory settings with the old weak sec springs that it probably has in it. By the way oif this combo is wrong then guess what I'd rather be wrong and fast then right and slow

Re: Would the XE256 cause an E58 to have low vacuum? update [Re: RobX4406] #427806
02/25/10 04:53 PM
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Something is VERY wrong. Did you fix or check the balancer issue?

There is NO REASON that camshaft shouldn't idle at 750-850 rpm with a 50-75 rpm drop in gear.

If the timing is correct, I bet there's a vacuum leak somewhere.




Start with the BASICS - make sure the timing mark on the balancer is not off.

Do you know how to use a positive stop tool against the piston to determine if the timing marks are off?

If the balancer mark is on, is the oil pump drive properly indexed to the # 1 cylinder when the motor is at TDC?

Where is the cam installed - straight up, advanced, or retarded?

Do you have adjustable rockers - if so, are they adjusted properly?

Can you block off all other vacuum hoses and outlets on the manifold except for the vacuum gauge and the vacuum advance for the car, to eliminate all other sources of vacuum leaks?

Can you borrow a known good working carb from someone to test with?

Has anyone fooled with the advance curve or changed the springs or weights in the distributor? Does the vac advance unit have a leak? Does it hold a vacuum?

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