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Clutch pedal "over center spring" #423040 07/29/09 03:54 PM 07/29/09 03:54 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 935 Elizabethtown, KY 6T9Hemi OP super stock
6T9Hemi OP super stock Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 935 Elizabethtown, KY	What's the best way to get the over-sized spring back on the clutch pedal? 1969 340 4 Speed Swinger R4, black vinyl, white butt stripe, 3:91

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 6T9Hemi] #423041 07/29/09 04:27 PM 07/29/09 04:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,859 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,859 Ontario, Canada	Stretch it with a floorjack and put wedges between the coils.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 6T9Hemi] #423042 07/29/09 04:29 PM 07/29/09 04:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,422 Warren, MI 71TA I Live Here
71TA I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,422 Warren, MI	Put one end in a vice and pull to the side to put washers between every coil (on both sides). Install it and then dig the washers out. Be sure to leave some of the hole exposed to get a screwdriver in. It's been a while since I put one in. Trying to think why when after installed that the washers weren't easily removed after depressing the clutch pedal. I'd be interested to hear other "methods". www.DetroitMuscleTechnologies.com Mopar body and heater box restoration gaskets

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 71TA] #423043 07/29/09 06:02 PM 07/29/09 06:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,041 michigan woods imfixinmopars426 master
imfixinmopars426 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,041 michigan woods	what clutch are you using? centerforce dont really need one. i have left many out myself. i thought if you unhook the clutch,and depress the pedal alone,you can pop it on w/ a small prybar?..then pull it up,and rehook the clutch linkage. be careful,and not get your fingers pinched under the pedal,once the spring is attached,w/o the linkage attached,lol..SLAM!! OOOWWWCCCH! F%$$^ D%$#^ S(%^!!

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: imfixinmopars426] #423044 07/29/09 07:03 PM 07/29/09 07:03 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana C Crabra enthusiast
Crabra enthusiast C Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana	I don't mean to hi jack post,But where do I find one for a 1969 roadrunner.Mine is really stretched out.What does this spring do.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 6T9Hemi] #423045 07/29/09 07:43 PM 07/29/09 07:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,859 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,859 Ontario, Canada	Its an "over center" spring, meaning it will pull either way once it goes past "center. So ... when you depress the clutch it goes past center and helps your left foot overcome the pressure plate. When you release the clutch and the pedal comes back up (from the force of the pressure plate) it once again goes past center this time bringing the pedal all the way up. Its just my thought but leaving this spring out would mean that the pedal would only come up as far as the pressure plate pushes it. This would leave the release bearing in constant contact with the fingers and it would be continuously spinning. This can't be good. The itty-bitty spring on the fork is there to avoid this but it doesn't have the balls to do the job without the over center spring doing its job.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Stanton] #423046 07/29/09 07:46 PM 07/29/09 07:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 9,066 Eugene, Oregon M minivan master
minivan master M Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 9,066 Eugene, Oregon	Thanks Stanton for an explanation on this item that I hear so much about on this site.. I always wondered what it exactly did.....

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: minivan] #423047 07/29/09 08:24 PM 07/29/09 08:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana C Crabra enthusiast
Crabra enthusiast C Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana	Great explanation.Can anybody tell me where to find one.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Crabra] #423048 07/29/09 08:33 PM 07/29/09 08:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana C Crabra enthusiast
Crabra enthusiast C Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana	Does anybody have pictures where it goes to and from.Don't even know if mine is in right place.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Crabra] #423049 07/29/09 09:00 PM 07/29/09 09:00 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 508 Cincinnati, Ohio S superbeedave mopar
superbeedave mopar S Joined: May 2009 Posts: 508 Cincinnati, Ohio	okay, I had the same situation about 4 years ago.Took me about 4 days then finally I came up with the spring drum brake tool. Worked like a charm.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Stanton] #423050 07/29/09 09:21 PM 07/29/09 09:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Its just my thought but leaving this spring out would mean that the pedal would only come up as far as the pressure plate pushes it. This would leave the release bearing in constant contact with the fingers and it would be continuously spinning. This can't be good. Hydraulic Throw out bearings remain in constant contact with the fingers...why can they "take it" but a regular throw out bearing can't? Photobucket sucks

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 70Cuda383] #423051 07/29/09 11:19 PM 07/29/09 11:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,859 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,859 Ontario, Canada	Quote: Hydraulic Throw out bearings remain in constant contact with the fingers...why can they "take it" but a regular throw out bearing can't? Didn't say they can't. But why subject them to that when you don't have to.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Stanton] #423052 07/29/09 11:46 PM 07/29/09 11:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,319 Chicago Burbs sthemi master
sthemi master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,319 Chicago Burbs	It has been a while, but I think I took the linkage off and with no carpet under the pedal, pushed it to the floor and the spring went on with a brake spring installer or a pair of vise grips.., then I raised it up and installed the linkage... Video Little Red Wagon Indy Nats,BurnoutContest

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 70Cuda383] #423053 07/30/09 01:11 AM 07/30/09 01:11 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,198 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,198 Someplace you aren't	Quote: Quote: Its just my thought but leaving this spring out would mean that the pedal would only come up as far as the pressure plate pushes it. This would leave the release bearing in constant contact with the fingers and it would be continuously spinning. This can't be good. Hydraulic Throw out bearings remain in constant contact with the fingers...why can they "take it" but a regular throw out bearing can't? I duno but my regular TOB died a quick death when the adjusting nut tightened itself up going down the road. No air gap, no workie.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Crabra] #423054 07/30/09 12:12 PM 07/30/09 12:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio 6 64dodge572 master
64dodge572 master 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio	Quote: I don't mean to hi jack post,But where do I find one for a 1969 roadrunner.Mine is really stretched out.What does this spring do. http://www.brewersperformance.com/proddetail.asp?prod=OCS936 Brewers Performance Inc. 4-speed transmission and parts specialists PH 937-947-4416 or 937-698-4259 FAX 937-947-4419 www.brewersperformance.com

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 64dodge572] #423055 07/30/09 04:21 PM 07/30/09 04:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 524 J Jamey mopar
Jamey mopar J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 524	I just had to do this last night. I tapped some thick washers between the spring coils. I then put it in place and pulled the washers out with a pair of wire cutters.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 64dodge572] #423056 07/30/09 05:38 PM 07/30/09 05:38 PM
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana C Crabra enthusiast
Crabra enthusiast C Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 330 Indiana	Thanks I called them (Brewers)early today.

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: Crabra] #423057 07/30/09 10:40 PM 07/30/09 10:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,198 Someplace you aren't S SomeCarGuy I Live Here
SomeCarGuy I Live Here S Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,198 Someplace you aren't	You don't run the over center spring if you have a diaphram (CF) clutch I want my fair share

Re: Clutch pedal "over center spring" [Re: 6T9Hemi] #423058 07/30/09 11:05 PM 07/30/09 11:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 522 Lenox Iowa M MMiller mopar
MMiller mopar M Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 522 Lenox Iowa	So, do I need to find one for my truck then? I just changed out the centerforce, to a dual disk McCloud. The pedal does not come all the way up. Where do I find a creature like this said spring for a 75 dodge truck? Michael 93 W250 CTD getrag, Bosch 185 injectors, AFE air filter. Trailer puller, daily driver, 90 W250 CTD 727 with smokin 5" stacks. Off road truck 75 Dodge W200 440 4spd 4x4 locked front and rear, twin disc clutch, E85. Pulling truck

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