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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: 72chrgrally] #366004
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Great news Bob. Now ya have a nice "baseline" to work off.The car looks and sounds sweet. I'm sure the brand "x" guys were envious..How is that track? Would you be going faster/quicker on a diferent track in comparison??



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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: KatFysh] #366005
07/04/09 10:34 AM
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good to see you got the car out after all the issues youve had bob.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: 340RICK] #366006
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Thats great Bob

Glad you finally made it out its been a struggle forsure.




Yes it has Rick, and the struggle still isn't over, but we're driving it to the local ice cream stand sometime today.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: RonP] #366007
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Congrats Bob I know you have been working hard to get out and enjoy it.




Thanks Ron, I tested my new hard drive camcorder in the car yesterday and it did the same thing yours did. It shut off as soon as I did the burnout, turned it back on and it shut off at the launch. I'd give anything to have my old SONY camcorder back that took the little cassette tapes, never an issue with it.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: 72chrgrally] #366008
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Sounds great Bob! I'm so happy to hear the 'ol bullet is working well for you.
Steve




Thanks Steve, now get that 432 nitrous motor running!

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: KatFysh] #366009
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Great news Bob. Now ya have a nice "baseline" to work off.The car looks and sounds sweet. I'm sure the brand "x" guys were envious..How is that track? Would you be going faster/quicker on a diferent track in comparison??




Kevin, traction was terrible for my car, my best 60 foot was a 1.51. I think 6.30's are achievable at Norwalk and quicker if I have the converter tightened up. That will put me in the 9.90's which is right where I want this car to be.

The motor sounds very mild to me and drives nice on the street. It's not the perfect cam for the combination so over the winter we'll see how the funds are, might drop in a custom roller.

I run 94 octane on the street, at the track I put 4 gallons in each jug, only 1.5 gallons of it was 110 octane. It will run fine on pump gas with 150 cranking compression but I don't want to chance it yet at the track.

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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: ProSport] #366011
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What is the combination you have in the car now? BTW, the car looked and sounded fine to me on all of the runs Do you know how much RPM drop you have on each gear change and what the converter flashes to? Ain't racing sweet


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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: racerx] #366012
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Glad to hear you got it out there and had a good time. That is what it is all about after all, having fun.


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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: ProSport] #366013
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Looks good. I've always had a soft spot for Darts. Had a couple of 69's in the past( a GT and 340 swinger). Thanks for the videos.


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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: Cab_Burge] #366014
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What is the combination you have in the car now? BTW, the car looked and sounded fine to me on all of the runs Do you know how much RPM drop you have on each gear change and what the converter flashes to? Ain't racing sweet




It's a 500" low deck with a stock 400 block, half filled. Flat tops down in the whole, .016 iirc, compression is about 12 to 1, Cam is a CamMotion 281/283 at .050, 706/661 lift but is is a 104 cam, I was told by a couple knowledgable guys that it would be all torque and no MPH which is exactly what it seemed like yesterday. I was also told it will bleed off too much compression.
Heads are Indy 440-1's, I'd probably be happier with some super Victor's but oh well, the 440-1's seem to work better on motors that are set on kill.
2" ProParts headers which sound restrictive to me, it's not that loud even with open headers, maybe some custom headers over the winter.

Converter is flashing high but my tach is behind the steering wheel and the camcorder malfunctioned, but on a slow roll in 3rd gear it hit about 5600. Shifting at 6200 the shift light stayed on the whole run, 6400 and higher it didn't do it as bad. The converter needs tightened up, that will also get my MPH up.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: ProSport] #366015
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What're ya doin on the 12th?? Hopin' to be at Thompson with the Dak again..



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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: ProSport] #366016
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Looks like the 500" monster is working well, no need for those 318 decals after all.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: mopars rule] #366017
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Congrats on getting the car out.Real sharp Dart.What rear suspension do you have and 9 runs is great. Cool track.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: ProSport] #366018
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Bob, I dynoed my 512 motor before putting it in the car, it made peak power at 5600 RPMs and peak torque at 4500 RPMs. I had Contintental Converters make me a street/strip(10 inch) that flashes 4200 RPM, foot stalls less than 2300 rpm before it pushes the little front tires thru the beams My messgae is that I tried shifting it at or close to 5600 rpm (4;10 gears, 315x60x15 MT ET Street Radials) and it spent a lot of time in high gear. Looking at the playback tach after several runs I realiized that the motor was not slowing down at or before the shift RPMs. I moved the shifts points up tp 6000 RPM and then 6500 RPM and finally 7300 RPM, each time I raised the shift RPM the car went faster and quicker It still has me thinking about theory and actaul results The time slips don't lie Maybe your combination, cam, heads and intake,exhaust sytem will like a higher shift point also BTW, I'm thinking of replacing the Eddy CNC RPM heads and six pak intake and carbs on my 518 low deck pump gas motor with a set of 440-1 heads and a single Dominator intake and carb. I probally shouldn't mess with a good combination but how else do we learn I hope it works better


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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: Cab_Burge] #366019
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glad to see ya made it to the track

would be nice if you could come to Norwalk on friday T&T to play with it.

car sounds good and looks BAD AZZ !

Bondo

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: KatFysh] #366020
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Kev, shoot me a PM close to the 12th to see what I have going on. I'd love to help you tune, just gotta see how my boy's baseball tornaments are gonna pan out.

Mopars rule, thank goodness, I really didn't want to have to buy new decals.

Cudabunch, It's a ladder bar car with old coilovers that are rebuilt but need replaced with new ones, they just don't seem to have any adjustment. The M/T 10.5's are shot too, need replaced soon.

Cab, I tried shifting at 6200, 6400, 6600 and 6800, it liked 6400 best. I was really surprised as these ported 440-1 heads should like more RPM I would think.

Thanks Bondo, I still need to seal off my hood scoop somehow and I think I really need to get this converter tightened before Norwalk, my bad elbow may prevent that from happening, along with my bad wallet. I may have to have you scale this thing someday but I also need new slicks.


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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: ProSport] #366021
07/04/09 11:25 PM
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Glad you are out to the track with it Bob. Car looks killer, and definetly one of my favorites on Moparts.

Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: abodiesonly1] #366022
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Bob, congrats.. Looks like it was shot out of a cannon !! I see a 10.0 in your future !! Trophy that is !! Looks great !


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Re: Finally got out to a test-n-tune [Re: sunroofgtx] #366023
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Thanks guys, the compliments make all the blood sweat and tears worth it!

And special thanks to my wife for the awesome videography and to Butch for loaning the awesome trailer!

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