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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: Exit1965] #36354
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Great website, I want to try satin black but can't find anything through the search. Any tips?
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Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: gerty] #36355
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Great website, I want to try satin black but can't find anything through the search. Any tips?
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Bob,

Here is a fella that was successful rolling on a satin black on his mustang....

--> CLICK HERE <--

Do a search on the following username: gfeighny

Make sure to broaden your search to a YEAR, not a week.

You will notice that he has several posts regarding his method and results.

I plan on doing the same thing to my '71 Chevy.

Keep us posted on your results.

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36356
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Okay, I decided since I was burning thru layers when wetsanding that my paint was obviously to thin. I mixed up a new batch at a 1 to 4 ratio. Actually I used a measuring cup and mixed 1 cup paint to 1/4 cup mineral spirits. That would be like 20% spirits, right? This gave a much thicker consistency than I used before. Between milk and a "heavy cream" consistency. The orange peel with this mixture is a little more pronounced than before but I may have to live with that to get a thicker coat of paint. All of the bubbles still self popped, leading me to beleive that I was not to thick with this mix. My plan is to give it a once over with 800 grit tomorrow to knock off the dust particles and tops of the higher peels and give it another coat. Then I'll wetsand it with 1200 and 2000. I may skip the 1200 depending on how smooth it dries. I see no need to take off more paint than necessary by doing two wetsands if I can smooth it with 2000 alone. Once again, this is why I agree so strongly with the recommendation of practicing this technique on a scrap piece before you paint your car. I would have been pretty upset to be wetsanding my car and find this info out on a large scale.

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Thanks, I will post my experiences with rolling soon. I think that old toolbox in the shed will be my first attempt. My wife is an art teacher and she wants to get involved as well.
Bob

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Just imported 6 cans of 750ml of Brightside from UK to Spain and about to get started.

Well done on the website Exit1965 but I found a few things missing:

1. They dont mention primer or sanding? Arent they necessary?
2. Do I need to thin Brihgtside, what thinner shall I use that I can find locally?
3. The instructions seem more for rustoleum, how does the method change with brightside?
4. I still cant seem to find an orbital polisher like you have told me about, can anyone point me to more makes and models?

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V8nut all the prep work primer sanding etc is covered in the archived thread go to my first post on this thread to find it.
This link will help with the use of brightside.
http://carpainting.wetpaint.com/page/Rollering+Interlux+Brightside+Polyurethane+Paint

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: 69DartGT] #36360
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It's great to see this thread still going. I'm going to change colors on my eclipse spyder this next week from largo blue bright side to sapphire blue. All the experimentation with penetrol has been helpful as I rolled straight brightside before.

Shall post pictures when done. Keep up the good work and thanks again to everyone who helped me on the way.

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Do post pics please, I am curious to see how the sapphire blue looks.

Test fender got hailed on the other day and all the paints held up fine, and the fender got a pretty good ping in it.

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Not finding the prep page you mentioned 69dartgt

As for the polisher could I use one of these, as I understand they connect to my air compressor?
http://cgi.ebay.es/5-PALM-AIR-RANDOM-ORB...1QQcmdZViewItem

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Start here and go back to 118/119 or so.
I bought a Porter Cable 7424 off the bag if you look there are some go buys. I don't have a big enough compressor for air tools.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rt=129&vc=1

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: 69DartGT] #36364
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eh, guess no one seem my post a little while back but i was not in a hurry to know back then. so i'll ask again.. tomorrow i'll be painting my bumper which is plastic.. so i was wondering how to apply rustoleum to plastic, dose rustoleum adhere to plastic good or do i need to prep it some how to stick good? (same goes for rubber)

i know they make spray paint just for plastic.. i know plastic has a fit with some paints adhering so should i use http://www.marcospecialties.com/mmMS/Images/Fusion2320_100.jpg as a base coat to cover the plastic then go over it with rustoleum or would the rustoleum cover plastic without a problem?

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I recomend using Bulldog adhesion promoter (good stuff) on plastic prior to paint.
we did shoot the rear bumper cover for my car with the rustoleum and it seems to flex fine, and is adhering really well.

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Is it possible to rescue a bad final coat?

If on the final coat you get alot of peel, will a good 2000 wetsand and polish save it and prduce the results?

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Thanks for the help 69dartGT but what do you mean 118/119 there are only 80 pages and I cant see any numbering for posts?

What size air compressor does one need to operate air tools?

Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. #36368
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Is it possible to rescue a bad final coat?

If on the final coat you get alot of peel, will a good 2000 wetsand and polish save it and prduce the results?




100% yes, that is if you have enough paint to wetsand and polish without going thru the paint, making it transparent or opaque. Beware also of the "blochy" issue, if you sand areas too much and reveal the underlying layer of paint. Try and see if it works, what you have to loose?


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i did get my gallon of clear today 717402 and it says to thin with 33% mineral spirits if anybody wanted to know.

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Any reason Tremclad Aluminum paint wouldn't mix with Dark Grey without separating ??? I was thinking Stripes

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Thats cool. I have not got mine yet and I ordered before you- just my luck I guess.

So how clear is the stuff? I'll bet it's slightly amber colored- right?


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i did get my gallon of clear today 717402 and it says to thin with 33% mineral spirits if anybody wanted to know.



Re: New Paint job on a budget thread. [Re: 62440] #36372
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Any reason Tremclad Aluminum paint wouldn't mix with Dark Grey without separating ??? I was thinking Stripes




the tremclad aluminum paint is just weird, not like any other colors, i suppose because there is real aluminum content, avoid it, just don't use it.

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Is it possible to rescue a bad final coat?

If on the final coat you get alot of peel, will a good 2000 wetsand and polish save it and prduce the results?




100% yes, that is if you have enough paint to wetsand and polish without going thru the paint, making it transparent or opaque. Beware also of the "blochy" issue, if you sand areas too much and reveal the underlying layer of paint. Try and see if it works, what you have to loose?






The "blochy" issue Charger refers to is exactly what I commented about on the last page. My coat was too thin and when I tried to sand out the imperfections I sanded right through the top layer, no way to recover from that except to apply another coat. I dropped my mixture from 40% to 20% mineral spirits to allow me to lay a thicker coat. I checked on my first coat this morning before work and it has dried extremely smooth. I'm hopeful that a couple of these thicker coats and I'll be able to wetsand off the peel with no problems.

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