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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
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07/01/09 10:06 AM
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CHRGR69
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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .
And with that said, my combo is a 450" B block, TTI 1-3/4" headers, 130T flywheel, and Robb starter. No fitment issues whatsoever. I didn't have to clearance anything.
For whatever reason, the Robb starter did not engage my flywheel. Trust me, Robb and I both TRIED to make it work. I love the design. Cleared headers perfectly. I need the next best header clearing mini starter available. And BTW, Robb is 
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: CHRGR69]
#362830
07/01/09 12:55 PM
07/01/09 12:55 PM
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therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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I know 3 guys running minis with headers on B blocks.None had a problem.Mine is tight because of the 143 tooth wheel and scattershield.Junk yard starter I think not.Its too hard to change a probally 8 year old starter to take a chance.Ill pay for a new one.Rocky
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
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#362832
07/01/09 01:24 PM
07/01/09 01:24 PM
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All you guys telling this member what you are using on your 440 , unless its a low deck stroked to 440 cubes , is TOTALLY USELESS INFORMATION , headers and minis fit fine on RB blocks , completely DIFFERENT STORY on a low deck , been there, smashed the tubes to prove it .
And with that said, my combo is a 450" B block, TTI 1-3/4" headers, 130T flywheel, and Robb starter. No fitment issues whatsoever. I didn't have to clearance anything.
Headers play a huge part in this members decision , the mini starter is WIDER than the std gear reduction starter ( at least the first one I used was), if the header isn't designed with that in mind a mini is not going to fit .
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: CHRGR69]
#362833
07/01/09 01:32 PM
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JohnRR
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I know 3 guys running minis with headers on B blocks.None had a problem.Mine is tight because of the 143 tooth wheel and scattershield.Junk yard starter I think not.Its too hard to change a probally 8 year old starter to take a chance.Ill pay for a new one.Rocky
What brand are they running?
You need to also what headers they are using and is it the same header you are using, which I can't see thru my crystal ball .
Just trying to help you help yourself.
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: CHRGR69]
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07/01/09 01:50 PM
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71 Cuda 383 auto 727 tranny. Hooker Headers #5903HKR. 1 1/16" from starter mounting surface to surface of ring gear. Original OEM starter worked fine, but headers did not clear. Had issues with Robb Mc mini. Looking for an alternative mini that will clear without  the headers! What else?
Ok , I remember that header callout now, my bad .
You may be out of luck , if you can't get the Robbmc to work and you can't get a std gear reduction starter to fit without a mini is more than likely going to fit either.
I've been there, a header that hit the gear reduction starter and I had to the header tube to get that one in there, I would have had to just about collapse the tube to half its diameter to get a mini in there and it still would have been too close to not cause heat issues later on with the starter. I also was unable to get the mini in the starter hole without unbolting the header from the engine. TTi's are designed to work around a mini but I think even they are limited to a certian tube size if I remember right.
On a plus note I was able to get a mini on a low deck with now discontinued Hedmans with 1 7/8 tubes bolted to a lakewood using a 130 tooth flywheel .
Good luck .
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: CHRGR69]
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07/01/09 01:58 PM
07/01/09 01:58 PM
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HealthServices
Why would you even post that?
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 Consider trying this. but make sure you get the model that can be clocked. This is based on the standard MIni starter so it looks the same but has a billet snout that can be clocked. Of course it cannot be clocked as much as the Robmc starter. I think it is the Powermaster 9523 - Powermaster XS Torque Starter, but make sure! Powermaster makes several starters and the cheaper version is the same mini starter everyone else uses that cannot be clocked. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-9523/I think Summit has a pretty good return policy so call and ask.  This is the standard Mopar performance mini starter. See how similar they are? The billet adjustable snout is the difference Don't buy this one if you want to stay away from the standard Mini starter http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-9613/
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: HealthServices]
#362837
07/01/09 02:56 PM
07/01/09 02:56 PM
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therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Just go gat a reman for a 360 ram like 90s.Then if it dosent work take it back.We have a mini with stick in a 360 with Hooker Scs and it fits.I dont care for Hookers.Rocky
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: therocks]
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07/01/09 05:24 PM
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wkroncke17
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Just go gat a reman for a 360 ram like 90s.Then if it dosent work take it back.We have a mini with stick in a 360 with Hooker Scs and it fits.I dont care for Hookers.Rocky
So I could buy a starter for.....say a 93 Dodge truck with a 360, (mini starter?) and it will work on my 69 Coronet RT stock exhaust manifolds 440/auto? No problems??
I hope Im not hi-jacking??? 
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Re: OK Which Mini Starter?
[Re: wkroncke17]
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07/01/09 05:26 PM
07/01/09 05:26 PM
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HealthServices
Why would you even post that?
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Why would you even post that?
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Totally!  Yes
Allen
Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first.
Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
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. I installed the Power Master 9513 on my Cuda and it worked fine 
. Strange, but true 
. Anyway, Robb is a man of his word, and we are all happy again 
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