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Aluminum Drum or CSR Carbon fiber shield? whats the difference between 5.0/4.2 kick down levers? 
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Re: 727 Questions
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BOTH. For a street car I'd use the steel drum. Mine is the A&A piece, very nice. After my explosion last fall, I'll never drive another car w/o a shield or blanket of some sort on it. I have the CSR shield on mine and had one on it when the trans exploded...it kept my feet attached to my legs.  On the kickdown levers, I don't know. I never bothered to ask my trans builder what he put in it. Maybe someone who knows more about them will answer that for you. CHIP
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Re: 727 Questions
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the kickdown lever really depends on the valve body manufacturer and what they recomend for your application - Griner suggests a 3.2 or 3.8 Read this - it will answer alot of questions you might have - 8 pages 727 Built right
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Re: 727 Questions
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billet steel drum and a blanket here also. as far as the k/d lever, the number indicates the ratio of the lever. a 5.0 lever is 5:1, which means it takes a longer stroke of the servo to apply, but it holds with more force. it's also slower to release. it's a trade-off like everything else. always use the lever recommended by the manufacturer of your valve body or shift kit/ trans kit.
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Re: 727 Questions
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The shield has to be there to pass tech inspection at the track and will keep the trans explosion contained. You NEED the good drum. If you don't put it in now, you will regret it... I know I did. Even with the good drum in it, you should still put a shield on it. Anything can break, but like I said, the shield is mandatory if you're gonna race at a track that has tech inspections. CHIP
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: 727 Questions
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the kickdown lever really depends on the valve body manufacturer and what they recomend for your application - Griner suggests a 3.2 or 3.8
 I have a Griner valve body and I run a 3.8 lever and 5 clutch front drum (aluminum of course), plus the shield (required safety equipment). I recommend both, but the drum (aftermarket steel or aluminum) is the most important, but the shield is required by rule (and good idea).
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Re: 727 Questions
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The shield has to be there to pass tech inspection at the track and will keep the trans explosion contained. You NEED the good drum. If you don't put it in now, you will regret it... I know I did. Even with the good drum in it, you should still put a shield on it. Anything can break, but like I said, the shield is mandatory if you're gonna race at a track that has tech inspections. CHIP
thx ill just get both.... also chip im gonna get another converter from your guy... I liked the one in my chally
Cool! Dave's a good guy and builds some awesome converters. Stands behind his work too. CHIP
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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: 727 Questions
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A lot of the stuff that was considered de rigueur in the sixties has dropped out of favor; the "Hemi only" lever, wide band, and wide drum didn't really do what they were expected to do compared to modern thinking.
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