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Flowmaster or Magnaflow on a bigblock with 509 cam?

Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: bobs69] #360409
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How loud do you want it to be? I think Hooker Max Flow's are one of the best flowing mufflers on the market but it depends on what kind of sound/volume level you want.

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Not looking for loud sound just a good sound out the exhaust. Little cab sound as possible.

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Do you have a part# for the dynomax?

Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: bobs69] #360414
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See attached muffler comparision chart. I used the Dynomax UltraFlo 17513. Great sound in the car, somewhat load in back of car at speed.
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at the jegs engine masters challange for the last couple years there have been more magna flos used than any other.. these are the top builders in the country.

Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: mcat4321] #360416
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17221 3" quiet and on my (RIP) 542 with an X pipe .04 slower corked to open that's hardly any loss.
got friend \s with magna flows and Flo ba$$a$4 and they are loud and resinating on the highway!

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I've run Magnaflow,Flowmaster and Dynomax..Magnaflow is the best sounding of the 3,Flowmasters are Way to loud and they sound the same on everything ..Dynomax ultraflos sound good too' but not as good as Magnaflows..

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nothen sounds as good as a motor with flowmasters and a nice cam all the rest sound like glasspacks


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nothen sounds as good as a motor with flowmasters and a nice cam all the rest sound like glasspacks




That's because they are glasspacks. My vote is for Flowmasters.

Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: dodgeram440] #360420
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Not a fan of chambered mufflers. Do you really want the flow battling itself to find a way out?
I don't.
Magnaflows have a tame, but deep, idle and bark real nice under heavy throttle. I run them now, and would buy them again in a heartbeat.

Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: dodgeram440] #360421
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HOOKER AERO CHAMBERS




I have a set on my pickup and they make the engine sound a lot meaner than it really is + if you run the pipes out the back they are pretty decent as far as interior noise goes.

There is a muffler flow chart somewhere on the net, but I can't find it. The Hooker Max Flow and some of the Borla mufflers were at the top of the list. The Aero Chamber scored well too IIRC.

Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: Neil] #360423
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dynomax super turbo for the best sounding muffler. period. and they flow better than flomasters

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Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: bobs69] #360424
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Flowmaster or Magnaflow on a bigblock with 509 cam?





I run the .509 with 3" duel Dynomax mufflers. Nice mellow sound at idle. But when you nail it..sounds like all hell broke loose!!


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Not a fan of chambered mufflers. Do you really want the flow battling itself to find a way out?
I don't.
Magnaflows have a tame, but deep, idle and bark real nice under heavy throttle. I run them now, and would buy them again in a heartbeat.




About a year ago I read a SAE article on high performance exhaust design. It was very technical with a lot of considerations on how to size and place the muffler and pipes to create a system that has no loss compared to open headers.

The two things I took from this article is that all performance mufflers sized properly flow more than than the engine generates and that it is easier to design a no loss system with chambered mufflers than it is with straight thru mufflers like the magnaflow or ultra flo.

After that article I just tell people to pick what sounds good to them.


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Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: dgc333] #360426
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Another muffler flow chart. The Hooker and Borla mufflers are rated highest by far.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h...sa%3DN%26um%3D1

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I don't care about flow i want a good sound out the exhaust with little sound in the cab. And a good sound at idol.

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No opinion on muff selection but I would include large dia mandrel bent pipes, an X pipe and resonators of some sort in the tailpipes by the leaf springs


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Not a fan of chambered mufflers. Do you really want the flow battling itself to find a way out?
I don't.
Magnaflows have a tame, but deep, idle and bark real nice under heavy throttle. I run them now, and would buy them again in a heartbeat.




About a year ago I read a SAE article on high performance exhaust design. It was very technical with a lot of considerations on how to size and place the muffler and pipes to create a system that has no loss compared to open headers.

The two things I took from this article is that all performance mufflers sized properly flow more than than the engine generates and that it is easier to design a no loss system with chambered mufflers than it is with straight thru mufflers like the magnaflow or ultra flo.

After that article I just tell people to pick what sounds good to them.





Most performance mufflers flow over 500 CFM. My exhaust guy tried open, H pipe, and X pipe on his race car. Not sure what mufflers he used but all three had almost the same ET.


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For the 440 in my Jensen I went with Flowmaster 50s AND Dynomax Bullets. I use the Dynomaxs as resonators....


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I don't care about flow i want a good sound out the exhaust with little sound in the cab. And a good sound at idol.




Go with the magnaflow you won't regret it. I installed them after I ditched my flowmasters. Nice and quiet (compared to flowmasters) in the car when crusing. When you nail it they sure wake up.

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No opinion on muff selection but I would include large dia mandrel bent pipes, an X pipe and resonators of some sort in the tailpipes by the leaf springs




Stay away from Flowmasters if you don't like the interior drone.

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There are some good articles on this subject on the web. Vizards article is popular, although hard to follow at times. Anyway, its pretty well established of the 3 types of mufflers (chambered, turbo, stright through), that the straight through muffs are the only ones that flow as much or close to an open pipe. I also think people typically over pipe their systems, which make unecessary noise. Remember, 2.5" is good for 500hp. How many have less than that and run 3"?

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No opinion on muff selection but I would include large dia mandrel bent pipes, an X pipe and resonators of some sort in the tailpipes by the leaf springs




Stay away from Flowmasters if you don't like the interior drone.


Alright I will keep that in mind when I get to that point(which will be in a month or 2)


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Stay away from Flowmasters if you don't like the interior drone.




My motorhome runs two 3" Flowmaster 50 series and has absolutely NO drone whatsoever. It depends HOW you install your exhaust and components and which Flowmasters you use.


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No opinion on muff selection but I would include large dia mandrel bent pipes, an X pipe and resonators of some sort in the tailpipes by the leaf springs




I'm thinking we think alike...?


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Flow masters on a big block Mopar sound like doggie doo. Just sounds like a car with a bad ehaust system. I hate the sound of flowmasters. I'd go with the magnaflows or stock Hemi style mufflers.

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flowmasters sound ok, magnaflows sound the best I think


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Flow masters on a big block Mopar sound like doggie doo. Just sounds like a car with a bad ehaust system. I hate the sound of flowmasters. I'd go with the magnaflows or stock Hemi style mufflers.




My Flowmasters on my motorhome would be soooo far out in front of your car you wouldn't have to listen to them anyways....



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Dynomax Super Hemi Turbos. I have them on my Barracuda. Nice tone at idle/cruise, quite audible at WOT. Its nice to hear that quad roaring at 7,000rpm!


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No opinion on muff selection but I would include large dia mandrel bent pipes, an X pipe and resonators of some sort in the tailpipes by the leaf springs



I'm thinking we think alike...?



I agree, (dis)functional minds do think alike.


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No opinion on muff selection but I would include large dia mandrel bent pipes, an X pipe and resonators of some sort in the tailpipes by the leaf springs



I'm thinking we think alike...?



I agree, (dis)functional minds do think alike.






I'm actually going mandrel bent pipes into an X pipe and then into two mufflers with resonators at the rear leaf springs on my Interceptor. I have a feeling there will be very little to no drone, I want a "quieter" ride than usual...


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I want a "quieter" ride than usual...


me too and everyone says that resonators at the end by the leafs makes a world of difference.


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I want a "quieter" ride than usual...


me too and everyone says that resonators at the end by the leafs makes a world of difference.




I have a warmed over 360 in my motorhome, .485" lift hydraulic roller, ported 2.02s, 1 3/4" headers, M1 intake etc...
I have the headers feeding a Y pipe, and what is basically two 3" Flowmaster 50 series in tandem in a single exhaust.
I absolutely LOVE it.

I've heard cars with glasspacks for resonators behind a regular exhaust with mufflers, it sounded GOOD. I couldn't believe it myself.
I'll try it, if it doesn't sound any good I'll swap it out, but I think it should be decent from many cars I have already heard...


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I've heard cars with glasspacks for resonators


that'll probably be my choice, some with the louvers punchedtoward the outside as to not restrict flow and no necked down connectors at the ends


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I run the 3" Dyno-Max Ultra-Flows and I like them. They are not way to loud but when I hit it they sound almost like open headers. I always race my 63 capped up and it feels good with the straight thru Ulta-Flows. One day I may uncap it but I really don't think it will be much if any faster. I actually went with the Ultra-Flows for the best performance rather then how they sound as I knew this lazy old man was not going to crawl under my car at the track and uncap it. Ron

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I've heard cars with glasspacks for resonators


that'll probably be my choice, some with the louvers punchedtoward the outside as to not restrict flow and no necked down connectors at the ends




Here is the mockup of what I'm gonna try on my Interceptor for resonators.....





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Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #360449
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Just figure I'd give my opinion even though I think I'm out numbered. I ran 40 Series Flowmasters on a 340 small block .60 over with 360 J heads 2.02/1.60 3 angle valve job, .528 solid lift cam, Harland Sharp 1.6 ratio rockers.

40 series flowmasters with Hooker competition headers, 2.5" with x-pipe.

I love the sound of a small block that screams and I'm more into loud cars. The thing I loved most about the car was when you would gradually press down on the gas and the cam would hit it's power band because it sounded like the car was turning into a monster.

I have a buddy with a 440 that is built up pretty good. Just updated to a 440 source cam and head package. He ran Hooker headers 3" pipe with x-pipe and 40 series flowmasters. I will be honest I don't like the way it sound on a big block for some reason.


Anyone run the super 40's or super 44's?

Had Summit race headers 2.5" pipe with x-pipe and super 44's on my 88 power wagon. It was only a 318 so it's hard to get any sound out of it.

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super stock
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super stock

Joined: Jun 2007
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clarks summit pa
I run the Flowmaster Super 40's on my cuda. 2 1/2" with hooker headers, comp XE268 cam and I love the sound. Couldn't be happier.


1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi
Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: bobs69] #360451
07/01/09 04:09 PM
07/01/09 04:09 PM
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Hatfield,Pa.
bigD Offline
top fuel
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top fuel

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,601
Hatfield,Pa.
I have 50 flows on 2 cars (1 BB,1 SB),they seem to like the x-pipe rather than the h-pipe(w/full tail pipes) as far as resonance go's.If you really want resonance try running 40 flows w/ no resonators on the new LX chargers ,I ended up putting a glass pack reso kit on ,now its fine.That being said every car I own has a set of flows on it(except the/6).It all comes down to personal preference, run what ever sounds good to you ,D.


2015 Chrysler200s,2008 Charger R/T R&T,1999 Dakota R/T,1999 Viper ACR,1968 Charger R/T.
Re: Magnaflow or Flowmaster [Re: bobs69] #360452
07/01/09 05:45 PM
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Chicken coop
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Chicken Little
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Chicken Little

Joined: Sep 2004
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Chicken coop
40 series Flowmasters on 2 1/2" pipes with no crossover coming off my 340 with a comp XE274.

If it's too loud, you're too old.

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