Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
[Re: Dusted_Ya]
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feint is the proper spelling.
Perhaps you want to get in touch with some of the F.A.S.T. guys running wedge motors and see what they had done.
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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The 906's would be cheaper to come by than the 915's & there is a set of 2.14/1.81's for sale in either the race or the bb section.
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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feint is the proper spelling.
Only if you're planning a misdirection, which is probably what this post is.
If you mean not for the weak of heart then it's faint.
But hey, language, who give a darn. I'll blither and let you figure it out.
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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If you could find a set the early stage 4 iron heads are very good.The ports are larger than std. bb iron heads and the dog leg is almost elimated as cast. the casting has extra materal for porting also. Every thing stock will bolt up.For an iron head motor they would be worth findinga set.I know this because I have a set and they work very good. Also from the outside you canot tell that they are not stock heads.
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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feint is the proper spelling.
Only if you're planning a misdirection, which is probably what this post is.
If you mean not for the weak of heart then it's faint.
But hey, language, who give a darn. I'll blither and let you figure it out.
Faint: lacking courage and spirit, strength or vigor
Feint: a mock blow or attack on or toward one part in order to distract attention from the point one really intends to attack
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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I would like to build a stout street mauler
I would go with alum stealths but you said iron. 915's would let you get quench which would let you support a much higher CR on the exact same fuel but are a bit scarce & therefore pricey, 906's are common but you'd have no quench, as double R stated the 516's need to be ported correctly with some one who has experience with that particular port shape to get the most out of them and they are cheap & the closed chamber would let you set up for quench. IF the cc's of the 516's and the stealth's are very close you would be able to switch at a later date & keep your CR right where you want it EDIT forgot that the alum wants a higher CR so disregard that last sentence
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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I am amazed sometimes to the responses I get asking these green horn questions but i dont mind II will keep asking until I get the answer I want to hear! I have both 915s and 906s which way would you go and why?
I love it when people fish for answers .
you have both heads , you want to run cast iron heads , ignore the get alum heads , USE THE 915's , prop a door open wit hthe 906's , it's really that simple ... really
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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Alright-you see I knew I would get a decent answer! Ok now how would you build it? Im will be installing 2.14/1.88 valves and a bowl blend would be in good order too! And the rest of the engine...
you need a little more than a bowl blend to get the benifit of adding the larger valves , so you are going to drop some money on the heads whether you like it or not .
As for the rest of the build the next answers you get will all have the words STROKER CRANK in it
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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Alright-you see I knew I would get a decent answer! Ok now how would you build it? Im will be installing 2.14/1.88 valves and a bowl blend would be in good order too! And the rest of the engine...
How stout of a motor are you looking for? What car you dumping it in?
Mine is 915's and runs well. Idles well. Would do well in a street car(I street drive mine)
Home ported 915's with STOCK valve size. fairly mild, but massaged. 440 .030 over with 6 pack slugs 10.6:1 comp 242 @ 50 hydrualic racer brown cam 1.6/1.5 combo roller rockers eddy rpm manifold 750 mighty demon 3400 stall 9" converter 373 gears. junkyard headers 3" exhaust back to the flowmasters, and 2.5" tail pipes after that mopar electronic distributor, with aftermarket fbo ign box Holley blue pump with 1/2" supply line to dual feed -6 lines from the reg to the carb.
As it sits now, my best pass is in the sig line. The car was a little lighter a few years back(added a dana and a second battery) so it was as fast as 11.70 then(still the same motor, converter, etc). Still over 3800 pounds even then.
FWIW, I ran the same motor with a set of 452's that I ported(in the same way the 915's are), and stock rockers, and it was 7 tenths slower.
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Re: 440 Iron Head Build-Not For The Feint Of Heart!!!
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I have a set of the iron stage 3 or 4 heads with valves that need redone if you're interested for $250 plus shipping.
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