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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
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05/28/09 10:09 PM
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RapidRobert
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You need to extend your linkage to where pretty much when the throttle is tipped the KD linkage is also starting to move which means the slotted rod(w it's seperate helper spring) is all the way back to where the front of the long slot is contacting the carb horizontle piece and at wot(eng off/gas pedal mashed to the floor the lever at the trans is all the way or close to all the way rearward and a non manual VB trans should not be shifted thru the gears manually.
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: RapidRobert]
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05/28/09 10:28 PM
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Guess I better start using that DRIVE button. I shift my 65 cable shift 727 with the buttons sometimes,am i doing it harm? Don't mean to hijack the thread,but i,d never heard that before.
Last edited by pushbutton; 05/28/09 11:22 PM.
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: RapidRobert]
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05/28/09 10:49 PM
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Thanks Robert.. I should ad that the slotted bar was just barely being pushed at idle, so I was close on it.. Aware a stock tranny should not be shifted manually, just wanted to add that to my thread concerning the band adjustment.. Tranny was rebuilt before installing it in car, so I wanna think its OK, just operator error in adjusting kickdown...
I believe I have read on here that the kickdown lever, on the tranny, should move all the way at wot.. Mine is not, it can still move maybe a 1/4 to 1/2 inch.. Is this OK?
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: minivan]
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05/28/09 11:06 PM
05/28/09 11:06 PM
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Lincoln Nebraska
RapidRobert
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That's why I mounted my HEI module up under my dist so nobody would see it.  and it was (1) an aftermarket hot one & (2) given to me & that's rude to refuse a gift so I had no choice  . On to business, I would want it back further some & you might want to extend the linkage & therefore the lever which will start to raise your shift points so do some trial/error testing & see where your shift points are at & what you are comfortable with.
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: minivan]
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05/28/09 11:18 PM
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Thanks Robert.. I should ad that the slotted bar was just barely being pushed at idle, so I was close on it.. Aware a stock tranny should not be shifted manually, just wanted to add that to my thread concerning the band adjustment.. Tranny was rebuilt before installing it in car, so I wanna think its OK, just operator error in adjusting kickdown...
I believe I have read on here that the kickdown lever, on the tranny, should move all the way at wot.. Mine is not, it can still move maybe a 1/4 to 1/2 inch.. Is this OK?
That's how I started on mine. I had to lengthen the KD rod by an inch or so to get enough adjustment room. Currently, I have it so at WOT the kickdown linkage can't go any further back. Under light throttle I hit 3rd around 25-30, and a few mph higher under more throttle.
I still don't have PTK, or Full throttle kickdown for that matter either  I went from a 2bbl to 4bbl, so I think the carb travel changed, so I need to adjust the linkage at the transmission.
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: Kirby]
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05/29/09 06:20 PM
05/29/09 06:20 PM
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OK- Call me stupid- but if you are not supposed to manually shift a stock trans, why would the factory equip so many with Slap-Stik's etc? Luci- you have some splainin to do- 
It's called an automatic transmission for a reason and it's intended to be used that way. It's not that you're never supposed to manual shift it's that you're not supposed to make a habit of it.
For one reason, obviously you'll wear out the shift linkage sooner.
For another reason, when manually shifting from 1-2 the rear band is applied and must release at each upshift; the rear band was never intended to be applied/released at each shift cycle and the release is so slow that it wears much more than it would if only used occasionally. The rear band isn't applied when in 1st gear in Drive.
Also, when slowing down to stop in Drive, the trans will downshift directly from 3rd to 1st, bypassing 2nd. If the trans is manually downshifted to 2nd often, the band will wear out sooner due to the added use drum direction issues.
Leaving it in Drive will eventually result in less wear and tear.
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: hooziewhatsit]
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05/29/09 06:32 PM
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Seems recently that someone posted a thread on upgrading the older transmissions to PTK.. Seemed like it was a pretty simple fix with a few of the newer tranny parts.. Anyone have that thread??
This one?
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD
(It's scary how many threads I've bookmarked  )
Thats the one Thanks
Which brings up the question if I bought a 71-77 valve body, would it be a bolt on project to my 67 TF?? Would the reconditioned or modified valve bodies being sold ( like at A&A) come with the PTK already on them?? Seems as if this would be the best way to get PTK with the limiter?? What do you all think???
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: stumpy]
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05/29/09 06:38 PM
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John_Kunkel
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"a little" is a relative term.
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Re: 727 kickdown adjustment??
[Re: minivan]
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05/29/09 07:39 PM
05/29/09 07:39 PM
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Car shifts into high gear before I get around the corner and doesn't really act like its using the gears.. It manually shifts fine
I start by adjusting the kickdown linkage all the way when the throttle is WOT and then back it off a bit at a time until the part throttle upshift is where I like it.
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