Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/19/09 07:32 PM
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I think the "dent" is indicative of a mid year production 1971 and up inner fender. Tav, is your car a 70 or a 71? One of my M46 cars is an A/C car, I can take some pics of the passenger fender, it is untouched original, other than most of the A/C stuff has been removed! There is no water valve or any hoses in the area in question. Hmm, I also have a shell from an early production 71 Challenger with 70 original inner fender still in place. I can take pics of that one, it is easier to get to. Tav, do you know what an original 70 only E Body water valve looks like? I have been looking for one for years, and I probably wouldn't know what it looked like if I saw it unless it was NOS in the box! Looking forward to meeting you at Carlisle Colin!
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/19/09 09:13 PM
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Tav, do you know what an original 70 only E Body water valve looks like? I have been looking for one for years, and I probably wouldn't know what it looked like if I saw it unless it was NOS in the box!
Hi Dwight, Thanks for helping!! From what I've gathered the valves pretty much all look the same on 70-74 E bodies. The part # changed several times through the years, but I've never heard of anyone finding any differences between the valves except for the brackets and also the screws that hold the valve to the bracket.
This car I'm doing now isn't going to be a date coded/matching part #s/replated black phosphate bolt type resto. For it, I picked up this NOS valve off Ebay. (pic below) It appears to be the right part for the job. It came with 2 brackets (some come with 3), neither of them are the correct E body bracket, so I ordered an E body bracket from Bill Rolik.
Here are some links to previous threads on this same topic. Unfortunately none of them contain measurements for me. The top link has a pic of Dave Waldens OE Gold 1970 water valve. (he's the only car to score 100% on air conditioning)
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/19/09 09:46 PM
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I think the "dent" is indicative of a mid year production 1971 and up inner fender. Tav, is your car a 70 or a 71?
Check out the pic below. The red arrows point to dents. Just a little ding up top, and a bit bigger at the bottom. The blue arrow is Not a dented area. It appears a lighter color because I wiped the dust off that sheetmetal dimple before taking the pic. (car is dusty, has been sitting) I believe that dimple is used on California cars for holding the emissions line from the valve cover breather to the rear of the car. I do know what you're talking about though. This is not the mid 71 & up inner fender with the "dent" there for the same purpose.
This car is an early build 1970 Challenger, SPD August 26th 1969.
Any pics/measurements you could provide would be great Dwight! Thanks for helping!!
Tav
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/31/09 03:19 PM
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Here's a pic of the water valve installed on the bracket on another car.
Tav
Is anyone repoping or have that valve?
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/31/09 04:56 PM
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Tag info for above car: M26 M31 M42 M44 N41 CTD H51 J25 L25 L31 M21 B51 C16 C55 G11 G31 G33 V1X U A01 A04 A46 A62 GY3 H6Y3 000 903 0229-- E65 D32 JH23 N1B 1274--
EN2 N85 R11 R31 V5X 26 JH23 N1B 1274--
Tav: It is a non N95 car. What measurements do you need, if any? I bought it as a shell, no A/C, motor or trans. etc.
Your fender tag codes are weird.
Never seen M26 or M44 on a car before. You car didn't come w/chrome exhaust tips?
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/31/09 10:58 PM
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Is anyone repoping or have that valve?
used or NOS only. You might try Classic Auto Air, I think they usually have some NOS ones up on Ebay.
Tav
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/31/09 11:01 PM
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Your fender tag codes are weird.
Never seen M26 or M44 on a car before. You car didn't come w/chrome exhaust tips?
I think they're alright. M26 & M44 would be part of the A46 molding package which is listed on the tag. The tag has CTD which means "continued". There is a second tag, and the first code on it is probably N42 for chrome tips.
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Re: E body AC Water Valve
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05/31/09 11:20 PM
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The tag has CTD which means "continued". There is a second tag, and the first code on it is probably N42 for chrome tips.
Actually, there shouldn't be an N42 code. [As noted on the second data plate.] This is a JH car. Dual exhaust came with the N code 383-4. It would have had the turn down exhaust tips. However, N42 could have been optioned. Only the R/T models (JS) came with the N42 exhaust tips as standard equipment.
This picture is of an E65 N coded 383-4 with only the N41 on the Data Plate
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