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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Bruce K Bridges] #312645
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The pricing is a bear as you're selling three complete throttlebodies as well as a fully ported manifold etc. etc. Come to the Mopars at the Strip show (or Spring Fling) and well talk about "show special pricing" if youd like!




Good to see you here Bruce! Thanks for the AC info!

Actually, I think your pricing is pretty decent if compared to the cost of buying a new stock six pack setup. Your setup costs a little more, but I feel it's worth it for the reliability of fuel injection + increased flow rates and WOW factor. I look forward to owning one of your setups someday. Thanks for giving us such a great product.

Tav

Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: cataclysm80] #312646
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Why thanks!
6bbl MPI is a lot of fun to drive! I took a look at some of the previous postings on this topic. The whole reason for running a six barrel intake is to take advantage of the long runner, high velocity central throttle body flow path at low rpm and the short runner, high volumetric flow of the two outer bodies at high rpm. Youve got to have a progressive linkage to make this happen. No amount of tuning the EFi system will "simulate" this fluid dynamic effect. That is why most every new car with a gas motorhas a variable runner intake tract that adjusts the lengths of the intake runners as the RPM/load/etc increases. The beauty thing is I dont need to worry about losing my atomization in the manifold (ported to 48mm +) or maintaining a high vacuum signal to keep the outers from flopping around. Big displacement, big heads and or cams, etc all work with the 6bbl MPI system and you get designed-in tip-in control without any histrionics. Try running a 2000 cfm single blade TB to learn true right foot control... Geeze.. turned into a plug for sixpacks!
Now I need to drive...
Bruce


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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Bruce K Bridges] #312647
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Bruce - I received my EFI 6 pac from Rocket, it is a work of art! The engine is still at the machine shop, so I havent been able to mock it up yet (still lots of other stuff to attend too). I am looking forward to driving the car with this intake system. thanks for producing a great product.


01 Viper GTS ACR
10 Challenger RT PCP 6spd
70 Challenger 440 6 pac
73 Cuda 416 Road Racer
70 Hemi Roadrunner
01 Ram 4x4 / 98 Ram 3500
91 Stealth RT
05 Durango Hemi
09 Caliber / 99 Dakota 4x4 / 52 Dodge B3B
Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: 70chall440] #312648
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Excellent and thank you!
If you or Rocket have any questions, please contact me! Id also like to get some pics and a description of your ride when its done!
Bruce


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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Mopar_Rich] #312649
07/22/11 08:59 PM
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You get the manifold from Bruce at F&B. That includes all the throttle bodies, IAC (idle air control), TPS (throttle position sensor), injectors (size depends on your HP level), linkage etc.

I supply you with all the electronics:
ECU (with O2 sensor), dual-sync distributor (for full sequential operation), harness, Sensors: CTS (coolant temp), ATS (air temp), map (manifold vacuum), Laptop software, a base program, tech support.

You would also need an EFI fuel system which requires an EFI pump (45 PSI), an EFI regulator, and a return line to the tank. I can supply all these components too or make suggestions.




Is the dual sync distributor you sell the same as the Accel dual sync distributor?

And Bruce.... I bet one benefit of the EFI on your Interceptor would be it would probably be superior for all out cornering on a road course.... I say this because my Interceptor has two Edelbrock 500s, runs great in a straight line, runs great through the bends, but I have put it into long corners in a violent way and in certain conditions towards the end of a long corner it sometimes seems to flood/stumble.... if I try driving like I stole it that is....


Beautiful Interceptor Bruce!


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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #312650
07/23/11 09:54 AM
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No. Fast has their own dual-sync, but you can use one from Accel too with a minor mod that I describe on my web site.

And EFI does solve the "rock crawler, road racer" problem.

Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Mopar_Rich] #312651
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Would it benefit me to swap to the latest FAST system over my Accel gen7 DFI? I have a wideband and dual sync distributor, injectors, Aeromotive fuel system, all my sensors etc....
Is the latest FAST ecu better than an Accel gen7?


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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #312652
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No not really. Accel and FAST have been duking it out for years and they are both very competitive. What one system adds - the other system adds too. Sure there are things I like about FAST but it's not worth the $ if you already have DFI.

Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Mopar_Rich] #312653
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No not really. Accel and FAST have been duking it out for years and they are both very competitive. What one system adds - the other system adds too. Sure there are things I like about FAST but it's not worth the $ if you already have DFI.




Thanks!!


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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Bruce K Bridges] #312654
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Excellent and thank you!
If you or Rocket have any questions, please contact me! Id also like to get some pics and a description of your ride when its done!
Bruce




no problem. The car is still in the mock up stage and the engine is at the machine shop. Once I get the engine put together, I wil post some pics here and send them to you (if you like).


01 Viper GTS ACR
10 Challenger RT PCP 6spd
70 Challenger 440 6 pac
73 Cuda 416 Road Racer
70 Hemi Roadrunner
01 Ram 4x4 / 98 Ram 3500
91 Stealth RT
05 Durango Hemi
09 Caliber / 99 Dakota 4x4 / 52 Dodge B3B
Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: 70chall440] #312655
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To anyone thinking about going this route, I will say up front that what you get far exceeds your expectations. The package will amaze you. Bruce is not only a professional, but a dedicated Mopar lover. He knows what he is talking about and super helpful. I would highly recommend F&B to anyone wanting to include EFI onto thier project. I will be using it for a roadrace/autoX AAR Cuda clone and selected it after talking to Bruce and completing a lot of research. I can't speak highly enough of F&B.

Thanks for making a beautiful, awesome product.


01 Viper GTS ACR
10 Challenger RT PCP 6spd
70 Challenger 440 6 pac
73 Cuda 416 Road Racer
70 Hemi Roadrunner
01 Ram 4x4 / 98 Ram 3500
91 Stealth RT
05 Durango Hemi
09 Caliber / 99 Dakota 4x4 / 52 Dodge B3B
Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: 70chall440] #312656
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how did you plan come out
looking at doing 440 6 pack injected
cuda clone have a carb system now
looking to up grade
mild build
all info helpful thanks
Mike

Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: smracing] #312657
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My ears were burning!
Thanks Rocket resto for the kudos! Wait until you drive it, then it will really shine! All the six pack fun and performance without a wet manifold. No distribution problems (fuel is metered to the valves by the injectors) Feel free to call or email or PM with any questions.
Thanks!
Bruce


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Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: Bruce K Bridges] #312658
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That is one great looking install. And the a/c is a great touch. By the way Bouchillon sp? now makes a low mount (under the alternator) a/c compressor for the B/RB engine.

I was thinking the Indy Mod Man Intake with the sixpack top would make a good efi intake like this? But now it looks like the standard intake is working well.

Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: PHJ426] #312659
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this is awesome system but not without some issues that have to be overcome. Things like routing the wiring, locating and installing the fuel pump and wiring it all up will take some time and thought. That said, it is a beautiful system.

I would highly recommend that anyone contemplating this read up on EFI systems if they don't have a good working knowledge of them already. It will greatly help you understand what everything does and where it should go.

I will say that if you intend to purchase this system and want to mount the computer inside the car, you need to know that it will take a fairly decent sized hole in the firewall to get all of the wires through to the intake and engine compartment.


01 Viper GTS ACR
10 Challenger RT PCP 6spd
70 Challenger 440 6 pac
73 Cuda 416 Road Racer
70 Hemi Roadrunner
01 Ram 4x4 / 98 Ram 3500
91 Stealth RT
05 Durango Hemi
09 Caliber / 99 Dakota 4x4 / 52 Dodge B3B
Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: 70chall440] #312660
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this is awesome system but not without some issues that have to be overcome. Things like routing the wiring, locating and installing the fuel pump and wiring it all up will take some time and thought. That said, it is a beautiful system.

I would highly recommend that anyone contemplating this read up on EFI systems if they don't have a good working knowledge of them already. It will greatly help you understand what everything does and where it should go.

I will say that if you intend to purchase this system and want to mount the computer inside the car, you need to know that it will take a fairly decent sized hole in the firewall to get all of the wires through to the intake and engine compartment.




is the car together and running ?

Pictures

Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: JohnRR] #312661
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unfortunately not, I was "distracted" by my 52 B3B Hemi build and my 98 Diesel 3500 repair as well as work. As soon as I get the 52 back together then I will be back to the Cuda. I got hung up in the wiring and lost some steam.

Here are some pictures of where I am with it.


01 Viper GTS ACR
10 Challenger RT PCP 6spd
70 Challenger 440 6 pac
73 Cuda 416 Road Racer
70 Hemi Roadrunner
01 Ram 4x4 / 98 Ram 3500
91 Stealth RT
05 Durango Hemi
09 Caliber / 99 Dakota 4x4 / 52 Dodge B3B
Re: EFI Six-Pack - F&B ? [Re: 70chall440] #312662
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Here is another


01 Viper GTS ACR
10 Challenger RT PCP 6spd
70 Challenger 440 6 pac
73 Cuda 416 Road Racer
70 Hemi Roadrunner
01 Ram 4x4 / 98 Ram 3500
91 Stealth RT
05 Durango Hemi
09 Caliber / 99 Dakota 4x4 / 52 Dodge B3B
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