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How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29456 09/02/06 10:37 PM 09/02/06 10:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	the shift shaft seal on the SuperCoupe is leaking pretty bad.. so I picked up a new one tonight, as well as a new trans pan gasket, in case I needed to remove that to get to the seal. ... what's the best way to replace this seal (trans is in the car)?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29457 09/02/06 10:46 PM 09/02/06 10:46 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	R U sure it is this seal and not the small kickdown one ? You can just put a deep pan on it ...and just lower the fluid level.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29458 09/03/06 12:55 AM 09/03/06 12:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	Uh.... no, I'm not sure... I didn't realize there was another seal there for the kickdown... crap. I had to special order the shift shaft seal... I know they won't have the kickdown seal in stock. What's the best way to replace these seals?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29459 09/03/06 01:05 AM 09/03/06 01:05 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Can you see if it is leaking on the high or low part of the shaft ? The lower seal is a complex one. The upper seal is just a simple rubber one. How you thought about a deep pan?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29460 09/03/06 01:09 AM 09/03/06 01:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA M mrsmallblock mopar
mrsmallblock mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA	the easiest way is going to be taking the valve body out. remove snap ring and washer to remove and replace the kickdown seal. if you are careful take the kickdown rod out without removing the rooster. then you can polish the shaft because that is what kills that seal, rust and corrosion. the case seal you can knock out from the bottom and use a big c clamp and washer to draw the new seal in. i have done this many times. not too big or a deal. howard mrsmallblock

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: mrsmallblock] #29461 09/03/06 01:20 AM 09/03/06 01:20 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	Quote: the easiest way is going to be taking the valve body out. remove snap ring and washer to remove and replace the kickdown seal. if you are careful take the kickdown rod out without removing the rooster. then you can polish the shaft because that is what kills that seal, rust and corrosion. the case seal you can knock out from the bottom and use a big c clamp and washer to draw the new seal in. i have done this many times. not too big or a deal. howard mrsmallblock what is 'the rooster'? I am not familiar with that term. I guess I'll see if I can get the rubber seal for the kickdown shaft too... I doubt I'll be able to find a parts store that has one in stock though.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29462 09/03/06 01:21 AM 09/03/06 01:21 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	Perhaps I should see if I can locate a deep pan... this seems like it's going to be a PITA

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29463 09/03/06 01:25 AM 09/03/06 01:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA M mrsmallblock mopar
mrsmallblock mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA	the rooser is actually the piece that goes through the case seal and the kickdown shaft goes throught the inside of the rooser. it has a check ball and spring that serves as the detent selector for your gears. if you remove the rooster it is a [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] to get it back in with the check ball and spring unless you have the tool for it. howard mrsmallblock

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: mrsmallblock] #29464 09/03/06 01:29 AM 09/03/06 01:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA M mrsmallblock mopar
mrsmallblock mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA	i got censored for that comment? thats ridiculous. you can't say anything. not like i was directing the comment at somebody. howard mrsmallblock

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29465 09/03/06 01:40 AM 09/03/06 01:40 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The deep pan is the plan .... just have the fluid show on the TIP of the stick.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29466 09/03/06 02:14 AM 09/03/06 02:14 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	Thanks.. I'll give the deep pan a shot.. it'll still shift ok, even if the fluid is low?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: mrsmallblock] #29467 09/03/06 02:42 AM 09/03/06 02:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd
GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas	#1 of 2. MASSIVE PICTURES (from TF 727 book..) 2893373-100_1020.jpg (1995 downloads)

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #29468 09/03/06 02:42 AM 09/03/06 02:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd
GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas	#2 2893374-100_1022.jpg (2592 downloads)

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #29469 09/03/06 03:16 AM 09/03/06 03:16 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	Thanks, FluffyTwinkie!

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29470 09/03/06 03:18 AM 09/03/06 03:18 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd
GoodysGotaCuda 5.7L Hemi, 6spd Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 25,050 Texas	Quote: Thanks, FluffyTwinkie! No problem, its not all that hard to pull the valve body. It is helpful to have someone around thats done it before if you get in a jam though. Oh and the fluffytwinkie...im thinkin im due for a new name. 1972 Barracuda - 5.7L Hemi, T56 Magnum 6spd - https://www.facebook.com/GoodysGotaHemi 2020 RAM 1500 [img]https://i.imgur.com/v9yezP9.jpg[/img]

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #29471 09/03/06 12:46 PM 09/03/06 12:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670	if it is just the selector shaft seal http://www.mytoolstore.com/kd/kdsusp05.html Will do it with it still in the car.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: mrsmallblock] #29472 09/03/06 12:49 PM 09/03/06 12:49 PM
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1100HPSmallBlock enthusiast Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 374 Mo.	Quote: the rooser is actually the piece that goes through the case seal and the kickdown shaft goes throught the inside of the rooser. it has a check ball and spring that serves as the detent selector for your gears. mrsmallblock

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: 1100HPSmallBlock] #29473 09/03/06 01:42 PM 09/03/06 01:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,913 Brunswick, Jawgia Snailpower Infinitely Fast Snail
Snailpower Infinitely Fast Snail Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,913 Brunswick, Jawgia	IMO, the deep pan is a band aid for a bad seal on the trans. Fix it right the first time. You can do this seal replacement without pulling the valve body, dropping the pan and if the trans is clean you won't even get your hands dirty (much). Take the kickdown and selector lever off the trans (both pinch bolts) and take a sharp pick to work the selector shaft seal out of it's hole and up the shaft. It's a press fit, so jab the pick through the top of the old seal and use leverage. Take the new seal, lube it a little and slide it over the shaft until it sits evenly on the trans case, not cocked. Take a deep socket the same size as the seal and slide it over the shaft to rest on top of the seal. Tap the socket until the top of the seal is flush with the trans case. Re-install selector/kickdown levers. I have done many this way. The worst I have had to do is un-bolt the trans crossmember to drop the end of the trans down for a little more room to work. Jeff 70 Coronet- turbocharged 360/518/3.73 SG

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: Snailpower] #29474 09/03/06 02:25 PM 09/03/06 02:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: IMO, the deep pan is a band aid for a bad seal on the trans. The deep pan won't have any affect on leakage since the FULL mark remains the same regardless of pan capacity. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: John_Kunkel] #29475 09/03/06 04:53 PM 09/03/06 04:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Sacramento, CA K Kirk_Ingram super street
Kirk_Ingram super street K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Sacramento, CA	Quote: Quote: IMO, the deep pan is a band aid for a bad seal on the trans. The deep pan won't have any affect on leakage since the FULL mark remains the same regardless of pan capacity. And the "band-aid fix" is to fill the trans with a couple quarts less. And the fill mark is now a GUESS. That will be a PITA for the next owner(s). I doubt the shaft seal in the VB is the issue (but it has happened). See attached for a visual. (note: snap ring and washer removed) {If you want/need this seal, I'll mail one to you; I have more than I'll ever use) Just pull the pan, valvebody and fix it properly, as others have stated. No reason to spend more money on an extra-capacity pan when it's not necessary. -K 2894458-DSCN0117.JPG (2510 downloads) Death or Glory...it's just another story.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: Snailpower] #29476 09/03/06 05:14 PM 09/03/06 05:14 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The deep pan is not the way to fix your problem! The seals are easy to change, just get the (KD) tool (Anderwh) listed and do it in the car. Drain some fluid out prior to doing it so you don't get covered in fluid. If you don't want to buy the tool, use a small screwdriver to pry out the old seal and a deep socket to hammer in the new seal. Next time you need a small seal for your transmission, go to you local trans shop, they should have plenty of them.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: Kirk_Ingram] #29477 09/03/06 05:15 PM 09/03/06 05:15 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	A deeper pan that has more capacity .... filled at the same height as a stock pan ? How many larger capacity engine oil pans are approached this way ? REcalibrate your dip-stick then. And very true .... putting a deep pan on to avoid leakage is a band-aid - and it IS more proper to FIX the ailment. But to some people that are DIY ... this job could be over-their-heads. Just my

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29478 09/03/06 07:20 PM 09/03/06 07:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 123 Minnesota T THBear member
THBear member T Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 123 Minnesota	We use the KD tool at our shop and it works great. There is a remover and installer included with the tool. The only part you have to remove is the shift levers. You can replace the smaller seal at the same time but you have to be careful after you remove the e-clip so that the shaft doesn't drop down into the pan. If it does it's not the end of the world, you just have to pull the pan off.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: THBear] #29479 09/03/06 09:56 PM 09/03/06 09:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	I'll make a trip to a local tool store and see if they have this tool you guys are talking about.. if not, I'll order it from that website. The other seal that you've mentioned, the kickdown seal... any suggestions where to get that?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29480 09/03/06 10:53 PM 09/03/06 10:53 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	kd seal ? ...stop by any trans shop. They should have a bunch of them. Those seals are very rarely changed by most rebuilders.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29481 09/04/06 02:14 AM 09/04/06 02:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,869 Carmichael, CA NotEnufGarage top fuel
NotEnufGarage top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,869 Carmichael, CA	I may be running by a friends transmission shop tomorrow. If so, I'll see if he has a seal. I'll PM you if I get one. '70 Charger FE5 Daytona Clone 451/727/D60 '70 Challenger FM3 440/833/3.55SG '79 Ramcharger SE 360 '89 Shelby Dakota ‘06 PT Cruiser GT Convertible ‘07 Charger R/T Daytona ‘10 Ram 1500 ST Crew Cab Yes, I'm a Dodge Boy. Verstehen?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: NotEnufGarage] #29482 09/04/06 03:26 AM 09/04/06 03:26 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA cal_gecko OP I Live Here
cal_gecko OP I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,589 Sacramento, CA	Awesome, thanks! I already have the shift shaft seal.. .just need the kickdown seal

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: Kirk_Ingram] #29483 09/04/06 02:29 PM 09/04/06 02:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: And the "band-aid fix" is to fill the trans with a couple quarts less. Not a good idea. The TF, unlike the engine, can suck air if the VB-to-case mating surface is exposed to the air. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: John_Kunkel] #29484 09/04/06 04:20 PM 09/04/06 04:20 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Quote: And the "band-aid fix" is to fill the trans with a couple quarts less. Not a good idea. The TF, unlike the engine, can suck air if the VB-to-case mating surface is exposed to the air. I have always wondered about that....but if that was a major "issue" - why wouldn't the OEM have put some O-rings or a gasket in there?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: John_Kunkel] #29485 09/04/06 06:03 PM 09/04/06 06:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Sacramento, CA K Kirk_Ingram super street
Kirk_Ingram super street K Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Sacramento, CA	Quote: Quote: And the "band-aid fix" is to fill the trans with a couple quarts less. Not a good idea. The TF, unlike the engine, can suck air if the VB-to-case mating surface is exposed to the air. Good point! -K Death or Glory...it's just another story.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29486 09/04/06 06:05 PM 09/04/06 06:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: I have always wondered about that....but if that was a major "issue" - why wouldn't the OEM have put some O-rings or a gasket in there? It's not a major issue if the mating surface stays submerged in fluid as it should with the correct fluid level. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29487 09/06/06 01:11 AM 09/06/06 01:11 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,869 Carmichael, CA NotEnufGarage top fuel
NotEnufGarage top fuel Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,869 Carmichael, CA	Sorry - my buddy usually gets them in seal or rebuild kits and he didn't have any in stock. I've got a /6 904 you could take one out of, if you want to try reusing a used one. '70 Charger FE5 Daytona Clone 451/727/D60 '70 Challenger FM3 440/833/3.55SG '79 Ramcharger SE 360 '89 Shelby Dakota ‘06 PT Cruiser GT Convertible ‘07 Charger R/T Daytona ‘10 Ram 1500 ST Crew Cab Yes, I'm a Dodge Boy. Verstehen?

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: NotEnufGarage] #29488 09/06/06 10:17 AM 09/06/06 10:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,456 Northern CA S streetkit pro stock
streetkit pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,456 Northern CA	Mark, Last time I needed one, Autozone (of all places) had them in stock. 1973 Dodge D100

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: streetkit] #29489 09/17/09 03:49 AM 09/17/09 03:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	I did this last year. Used a tool off ebay for less than $20 Something like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KD-TOOLS-...d=p4506.c0.m245 I think I have pictures of the install posted a while back too. I had to use a C clamp because of the space limitations but I fixed it in less than an hour. No need to drop the pan. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #29490 09/17/09 04:19 AM 09/17/09 04:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: the shift shaft seal on the SuperCoupe is leaking pretty bad.. This is pretty bad... Cleaned off. Tool ready to remove seal... Clamp to put pressure on seal while I turn the threads into the seal After the tool takes hold of the seal you put the bolt into the top of the tool to pull the seal out.... click the picture for a larger view. here is the picture of the seal removed A closer look... The new seal New seal being installed with tool and clamp. Linkage re installed.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? #29491 09/17/09 05:09 AM 09/17/09 05:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	I just did this job on my son's Ramcharger yesterday. It took about an hour and a half. That included dropping the pan and valvebody, adjusting the bands, new filter. I find just about any old Mopar I buy needs this seal replaced. (and the trans always have a new pan gasket as that is what most people think is leaking). Sheldon

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #2324555 06/21/17 07:50 AM 06/21/17 07:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 321 Spokane, WA FastbackJon enthusiast
FastbackJon enthusiast Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 321 Spokane, WA	I am looking at replacing the shift shaft seal from the top with the extractor tool in my 1966 Charger 727. I am hesitant in taking the two levers off (gear and throttle) from the shift shaft, not knowing if they are keyed are not. Or should I worry about this? The throttle lever appears to be keyed but the gear lever, I can't tell. Will it just go back on the same as it came off and then I can just make minor adjustments to the horizontal rod to change shift selector (gear) position? Thanks! 1966-67 Dodge Charger Registry

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: FastbackJon] #2324578 06/21/17 09:43 AM 06/21/17 09:43 AM
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bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	Originally Posted By FastbackJon I am looking at replacing the shift shaft seal from the top with the extractor tool in my 1966 Charger 727. I am hesitant in taking the two levers off (gear and throttle) from the shift shaft, not knowing if they are keyed are not. Or should I worry about this? The throttle lever appears to be keyed but the gear lever, I can't tell. Will it just go back on the same as it came off and then I can just make minor adjustments to the horizontal rod to change shift selector (gear) position? Thanks! they can only go on one way,youll see that when you remove them.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: HealthServices] #2324647 06/21/17 12:27 PM 06/21/17 12:27 PM
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TJP I Live Here T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,291 Omaha Ne	Nice instructive post, www.tandmautomotive-omaha.com

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: FastbackJon] #2324779 06/21/17 03:36 PM 06/21/17 03:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA	Various shift levers and TP levers. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #2325336 06/22/17 05:41 PM 06/22/17 05:41 PM
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bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas	Drop the valve body and tap out the seal from underneath. Pull the new one in with a piece of threaded rod, two nuts, and two washers. Easy project and a good time to adjust the bands, while you're already soaked with ATF.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #2325337 06/22/17 05:42 PM 06/22/17 05:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas B bobby66 master
bobby66 master B Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,804 Arlington, Texas	Drop the valve body and tap out the seal from underneath. Pull the new one in with a piece of threaded rod, two nuts, and two washers. Easy project and a good time to adjust the bands, while you're already soaked with ATF.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #2326266 06/25/17 12:19 AM 06/25/17 12:19 AM
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Sixpak master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp	IIRC correctly there's TWO seals - one that seals the large shift lever shaft to the case, and a 2nd seal, an "o-ring" type of seal for lack of a better tem for it(and not a metal cased one) for the kd shaft that runs thru the center of the larger shaft that is sealed by the larger washer. I'd drop the valve body and change both, for piece of mind. The 2nd seal is under the e clip and washer.

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: Sixpak] #2326532 06/25/17 06:14 PM 06/25/17 06:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,743 Rio Linda, CA	The two seals. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: How to replace shift shaft seal on 727 trans? [Re: cal_gecko] #2327049 06/26/17 05:37 PM 06/26/17 05:37 PM
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Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	I just use a small pick and get them out. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

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